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U.S. Troops Kill Pregnant Woman in Iraq

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by KenH, May 31, 2006.

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  1. Joseph_Botwinick

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    The driver's stupidity does not constitute a problem for the military, and is certainly not the president's fault unless you are going to claim the absurd that Bush ordered our military to shoot innocent civilians and the military actually obeyed that order.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  2. KenH

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    Nope. Never said such a thing and don't plan to.
     
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    They drive through gates, as well.

    For people with brains, "stop or be shot at" would suffice.

    BTW, didn't this dude know about the checkpoint beforehand ? Sheesh, since those morons are willing to send a four year old to blow himself up, shouldn't we assume they would send a pregnant woman ?

    The heart truly is wicked.
     
  4. KenH

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    I would be more sympathetic for using force if a gate was crashed through.
     
  5. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Here is why it is relevant

    Even Americans, who live in America away from the warzone, are smart enough to figure out that when you see armed guards and signs that say Restricted Area, that you don't crash through...you know...you might get shot. Perhaps if this dunce had figured this out in Iraq where they are actually in a warzone, the woman and the baby would still be alive today. This is not the soldiers' or President Bush's fault, and certainly no reason to bring the troops home and cut n run like a bunch of French sissies.:laugh:

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  6. KenH

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    The main reason to bring the troops home(besides the fact it was a mistake to invade Iraq in the first place) is that they have done all they can do for the Iraqi people and if we stay too long then the Iraqi people will show us the door.

    Proverbs 25:17 (ESV)
    Let your foot be seldom in your neighbor's house,
    lest he have his fill of you and hate you.
     
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    Six Hour Warning

    As this thread is way past 3 pages, I am issueing a Six Hour Warning.

    No Earlier Than 430am Eastern, one of the Moderators will close this thread.
     
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    there should be more consideration on moving the theme of these posts to the politics section...like for this one the question is still shooting at people "should the army be more considerate or alert?" or "shoud they have gotten more training to aim for the tires first?" or how about "why can't they plan ahead better and placed a rake line or something to stop the vehicle after it bypassed a warning anyway? how hard could that be?" then again it could all just break down to "couldn't they just get hot water in the home?" Well like I said, I forced her into heaven with the child anyway, so there's no real harm done. I announce it somehow to the Iraqai family (edit-I don't think all Iraq is ready to understadably recieve such a message yet) at a 9:23:52:64...etc. into tommorrow at their times
     
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    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/07/20040723-6.html
    Thanks to a gift of wheelchairs by American soldiers in Iraq, 50 children and adults in Baghdad's Al Jihad neighborhood are enjoying new mobility and an improved quality of life. U.S. Army civil affairs troops donated the wheelchairs to the Al Jihad Neighborhood Council, which distributed them to 20 neighborhood children and 30 adults with diseases, birth defects, and disabling injuries. This initiative, part of a much larger program, will deliver wheelchairs to other regions of Iraq, as well. The same U.S. Army troops from the 1st Cavalry are collecting trash, constructing sewers and water lines, building soccer fields, and renovating buildings in Iraq.

    http://www.blackanthem.com/TheAllies/2005062509.html
    Soldiers from Task Force Liberty are working to improve the way of life for Iraqis while also teaching them to develop reconstruction projects on their own. Task Force 1-128 is helping local villages to facilitate projects that will aid them in getting clean drinking water, renovating their schools, improving their agriculture and receiving supplies for their medical clinics.


    http://www.3coscom.army.mil/news/story.asp?id=188
    Understanding the need for books for Soldiers and Iraqis in Balad, 3rd Corps Support Command, with the help of World War II veterans, Boy Scouts and individual American volunteers, opened the doors to growth and knowledge and the 3,000 books in the new Halbert and Red Circle Library during a ceremony inside the Black Jack Education Center at Logistical Support Area Anaconda... In addition to providing books for Soldiers, the 3rd COSCOM hopes the local community benefits from the books as well. “There is an appetite and hunger for the English language among Iraqis,” said Lt. Col. Brian McNerney, the 3rd COSCOM public affairs officer. “For example, doctors and people in the medical profession have to use English because it is the language of medicine, so there is a natural community that hungers for English. Under Sadaam there wasn’t ready access to general Western Literature, or ideas – it wasn’t allowed.” Eventually, the library and all its books will be handed over to the Iraqis, said McNerney.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/03/10/baby.noor/index.html

    ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Baby Noor, the 5-month-old Iraqi girl discovered by U.S. soldiers in Baghdad and brought to the United States for life-saving medical treatment, underwent "successful" shunt surgery Friday, according to the hospital.


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    Say what you want about the accidental shootings, but don't forget that we're not there only guarding gates and hunting for terrorists. We're helping them rebuild, to claim their own country, to be their own people governed by their own chosen leaders.

    Whether it was about oil or WMDs or whatever, the Iraqis had every right to be as free as you or I, and they weren't able to obtain that freedom by themselves.

    If we don't help them in their desire to obtain the same freedoms you and I share, who will?
     
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    Are you advocating that we use our military to do the same for the citizens of the dozens of other countries who are not free? If not, why not?

    Also, history has not shown that it is very, very difficult to force a democracy on a non-highly industrialized nation. Remember, Germany and Japan were highly industrialized nations when the Allies occupied them. Francis Fukuyama's latest book, America at the Crossroads, has a very good discussion on this matter.
     
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