Why would I ascribe any probative value to a man who has a rap sheet for dishonesty (fraud)? Why would I even give him the time of day?
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UK Torture of Tommy Robinson
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Are you saying we should give the oxygen of publicity to these Islamists, then?
It matters if their talk costs lives. We had a saying in WWII: "Careless talk costs lives." That remains true today: if someone like Anjem Choudary - Wikipedia incites violence through so called 'free speech' then he needs to be put away. Do you really want his ilk roaming your streets with impunity?
Perhaps so that you could get his side of the story and realize what the precise charges are against the UK establishment.
You know, why should we believe the British establishment since they turned their backs and ignored the screams of the agony of the rape of little British girls for decades and then at the end only made a token prosecution of thousands of child molesters and spent a great deal of energy trying to stop everyone from talking about this atrocity that the British establishment ignored, presumably for financial reasons?
I'm really not interested in 'his side of the story': if you're a far right or indeed Islamist extremist then there is no 'you're side of the story ', not should there be. I'm astounded and hugely saddened that posters on a Christian board should even consider that there is merit is supporting such individuals.
Wilful ignorance is still ignorance
Well, Robinson has published that a prison spokesman is lying and he has a letter from them that contradicts their latest statements.
Apparently, they were dominant in spite of their numbers. You never even listened to his side of the story, which is about your filthy prisons.
I am saying you should have a free press and let people make up their own minds and form their own opinions. I do not support censorship of my views nor do I support it for views opposite mine.
You would rather form opinions without the facts. That is quite obvious.
Coming from the person who is "not interested" in Robinsons accounts and evidence.
You trust the word of a convicted felon who's defrauded others with his lies as a matter of legal fact?
What if those views cost lives?
No, I'm not. The facts are that he's a far right extremist of the type my grandfather fought against to keep us safe 75 years ago to stop him and his kind from bombing us and our way of life into oblivion, and that he's a convicted criminal and his associates are racist thugs. That's all anyone needs to know. Those incontrovertible facts inform my opinion, as they do all right thinking people, particularly Christians
No, I'm not. Why would I be? He's a proven liar
Part of freedom of speech.
A good investigator looks at all available evidence, then decides its credibility. I got my best information from the worst people. As a student of history, you should know that even the worst people quite often tell the truth more often than not.
Not an acceptable part. Human lives are worth more than human rights eg: a woman's right to choose doesn't trump a baby's right to life
And as a lawyer I know in both theory and from experience that liars make the worst witnesses