Ukraine and the Discredited "Domino Theory"

[KenH]

Let's look back so that we can look forward toward a possible outcome.

In listening to President Biden and Senate Minority Leader McConnell ramp up the U.S. commitment to the Russian-Ukrainian War(shouldn't the Congress have to declare war on Russia to do that?), I am reminded about how the United States got involved in the Vietnam War. Reading this article will refresh some memories and be a learning event for others.

"In Southeast Asia, the U.S. government used the now-discredited domino theory to justify its involvement in the Vietnam War and its support for a non-communist dictator in South Vietnam."

- article at https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/domino-theory

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Putin’s Russian expansionism is a much different beast. For a much better picture, try comparing to Hitler’s German expansionism, including its racist attitudes.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Why should the US declare war where Russia hasn’t? Putin claims Russia is merely engaged in a military exercise.

 

[KenH]

Why should the US declare war where Russia hasn’t? Putin claims Russia is merely engaged in a military exercise.

Why declare war? Because of the U.S. Constitution. Yes, I am quite aware that only me and probably about a dozen other people still care about that document. And, yes, I'm old, can be cantankerous, and I yell at clouds.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Why declare war? Because of the U.S. Constitution. Yes, I am quite aware that only me and probably about a dozen other people still care about that document. And, yes, I'm old, can be cantankerous, and I yell at clouds.

The US troop commitment is how large?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Why should the US declare war where Russia hasn’t? Putin claims Russia is merely engaged in a military exercise.

Some exercise LOL

 

[KenH]

The US troop commitment is how large?

How large was the U.S. troop commitment before it was all of a sudden 500,000 in Vietnam without the Congress ever declaring war on North Vietnam?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Why declare war? Because of the U.S. Constitution. Yes, I am quite aware that only me and probably about a dozen other people still care about that document. And, yes, I'm old, can be cantankerous, and I yell at clouds.

You ain’t alone brother!

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

How large was the U.S. troop commitment before it was all of a sudden 500,000 in Vietnam without the Congress ever declaring war on North Vietnam?

That's not an answer.

 

[KenH]

You ain’t alone brother!

Good to know that you care about the U.S. Constitution, too.

 

[KenH]

That's not an answer.

I am opposed to the neo-liberal/neo-conservative axis of foreign adventurism.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I am opposed to the neo-liberal/neo-conservative axis of foreign adventurism.

Is that a fancy way of saying you are opposed to the dictatorial expansionism of the new Russian empire? Regardless, that still didn't answer the question.

 

[KenH]

The US troop commitment is how large?

Maybe the United States won't. But I wouldn't bet that the United States won't end up sending troops into Ukraine. Would you?

 

[KenH]

Is that a fancy way of saying you are opposed to the dictatorial expansionism of the new Russian empire?

I am opposed to the neo-liberal/neo-conservative axis of foreign adventurism that exists in the United States - folks such as Joe Biden, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, et al.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Maybe the United States won't. But I wouldn't bet that the United States won't end up sending troops into Ukraine. Would you?

Nyah. But declaring war before it even happens would be nonsense.

And the last time it declared war was in WWII, and then it sided with Stalin. Insanity. Calling that constitutional would just make a mockery of the Constitution.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Good to know that you care about the U.S. Constitution, too.

Of course, I’m a citizen. We have ancestors who fought and died for it!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Nyah. But declaring war before it even happens would be nonsense.

And the last time it declared war was in WWII, and then it sided with Stalin. Insanity. Calling that constitutional would just make a mockery of the Constitution.

Yea, we must not side with monsters. Ken & RT, I don’t believe that Zielinski is being forthright nor do I believe that the US has been transparent either. Putin is deranged as are all communists. The murdering of innocents for a military exercises is unconscionable. This all comes down to an exercise of power.

 

[kyredneck]

Eisenhower’s warning about the military-industrial complex is still valid - Chicago Sun-Times (suntimes.com)

 

[KenH]

But declaring war before it even happens would be nonsense.

Listening to folks such as Biden, McConnell, and Graham this week, they sure aren't talking like the war in Ukraine is some distant, faraway war. They are talking like it is the United States' war versus Russia, with the U.S. having already spent over $50 billion in the past year.

A country that is already over $31 trillion in debt and galloping toward at least $50 trillion in the next ten years might want to spend a good deal of time and effort on its own knitting instead of involving itself in others'.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Have you guys read Stephen Kokin?

How the War in Ukraine Ends