Absoloutly not. America is the one arguing that. Watch and see. Western billionairs will split Ukraine amongst themelves. They will "privatize" Ukraines state owned business like the power company.
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Ukrainian missile hits bus in Kherson, killing 5
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The media posts EVERY civilian casualties Russia causes. Someone needs to show Ukraine does the same thing. Most of the casualties caused by Russia on civilians are because the Ukrainian military is intentionally embedding in civilian populations.
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The Ukrainian civilians, in their own country have freedom fighters embedded in their houses. Color me shocked!
Come on, Reynolds. Russia attacked an independent nation that had the sovereign right to do whatever it willed. Russia caused this whole tragedy.
Privatization is bad?
My socialist friend, I disagree.
85 or 83% of the Ukrainians who were polled disagree with you. Yes, it is bad when Ukraines power grid is sold to billionaires so they can make the profit.
You completely missed what Reynolds said. Give it another look over.
RighteousnessTemperance&
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And Putin's oligarch cronies currently control Russia's resources. The question is what gives Putin, a brutal dictator with another in Belarus answerable to him, the right to also control Ukraine’s resources and what measures should be considered allowable in achieving that? Putin claims that it’s Russia’s historical right to rule all of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus.
I didn't miss it.
You have drank the Red kool-aid.
Thats bull hockey. A lie about Putin he respected Ukraines boarders until his hand was forced. Honestly, do you not hear any other side but CNN, msnbc or worse? He has no such thinking that he has a historical right to rule Ukraine or Belarus. That is a lie. How can how can you believe such a thing? In 2014 when the United States of America caused a coup in the overthrow of the elected government and the eastern Ukrainian ethnic Russians wanted to be part of Russia he said you guys are part of Ukraine, and negotiated that they should not be persecuted. That's fact and evidence against what your saying. Of course they will not tell you that on CNN.
I didn't mean to sound disrespectful. But if you are a soldier you don't set up in occupied schools, apartments, houses. You don't put civilians at risk.
My ancestors were freedom fighters against the Russians. My grandparents came over from the old country to seek freedom.
Study the Russo-Finno Winter War in the 1930's and see how the Finns had to fight. The Ukrainians have to fight in similar fashion. War is h3ll and tradgedy happens when fighting against the invaders.
The blame falls squarely on the Russians. May God burn their army to the ground.
Study WW2 and you will see how the Russians had to fight Nazi Germany and the Finns at the same time. When Russia finally turned the tide against the Nazis and Finns the finns switched sides and ran the Germans out of Finland. Very late, but Finland did the right thing in the end.
Russia attacked a bunch of corrupt Nazi terrorists. If a "civilian" is fighting, he is no longer a civilian.
RighteousnessTemperance&
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Again, those sources are not mine. If the US puppet media happens to get this part right about Russia, then so be it. Also, this doesn’t mean I’m defending wrongdoings of Western players.
But Putin is not to be trusted. He’s a brutal dictator and trained propagandist, just like his counterpart in Belarus. These guys know how to manipulate the people. They are masters. If one promises you a car in the color of your choice, he means what Ford meant—“as long as it’s black.” Or in their case, red. They don’t just lie. They lie like the devil.
Biden lies. The Western Billionaires and their News Media's lie. I'm sure you have heard them before. If you are aware of them lying, then why would they tell the truth about Russia? They lie on something's, but tell the truth on other things? I think not. Their purpose is to demonize Putin. Demonize Trump. Demonize Republicans. Demonize Armalite rifles. Demonize 12 round magazines. Demonize Trump supporters. Demonize pro life people. Demonize people who don't like gay marriage. Demonize people who don't like critical race theory. This and that, I'm sure you have heard it all before. Why would they all of a sudden tell the Truth about Ukraine or Russia or Putin?
And how many Ukrainian civilians have been killed in Zaporizhzhia in the last few days by Russian shells and missiles?
RighteousnessTemperance&
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OK, I’ll say it once more. My sources are not the US media. Why they say this or that in this case isn’t my concern. And I wouldn’t just assume they must be lying about every detail regarding an issue, rather I consult various sources to attempt to discern the truth.
The fact remains that Putin is a brutal dictator and trained propagandist, just like his counterpart in Belarus. These guys know how to manipulate the people. They are masters. Their words should not be taken at face value.
When Putin says, “I am confident that true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in partnership with Russia,” he really means it. He intends to make sure Ukraine never has sovereignty, except that under Russia.
All of his regime’s efforts have been toward this goal. He has shown that, if Ukraine resists, he will make sure they suffer even to the point of totally destroying them. He cares nothing for the people of Ukraine, nor does he care for the people of Russia. He cares about power.
MILITARY AFFAIRS
The Crimean Bridge: NATO Appears Involved
OCTOBER 9, 2022 ALGORA BLOG 2 COMMENTS
Spread the Word
via South Front
Based on data from military correspondent Alexander Kots and official Russian sources
Two trucks were involved in the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge.
The head of the Russian Investigative Committee, Alexander Bastrykin, reported to Vladimir Putin that there is no doubt that the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge was carried out by the Ukrainian special services. Russian and foreign citizens took part in it at various stages of preparation.
“We have already established the route of the truck, where the explosion took place. Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, North Ossetia, Krasnodar… The carriers have been identified. With the help of operatives of the FSB, we managed to identify suspects among those who might have been preparing a terrorist attack,” Bastrykin stressed.
Two heavy-duty trucks were involved in this operation. The cargo were 22 pallets of plastic food wraps, 9 rolls each (one pallet weighs about a ton), that arrived in the Georgian port of Poti from Bulgaria by sea. The ordering customer was a citizen of Ukraine. Then it was loaded onto a truck with foreign license numbers. The driver of the first truck communicated with the ordering customer via WhatsApp. Further, the truck went from Georgian port of Poti to Armenia, where the cargo was customs cleared according to the rules of the Eurasian Customs Union. This is a typical, unsuspicious route for truckers traveling to Russia.
Then the trucks entered Russian territory through the Verkhny Lars checkpoint. The same one through which several thousand neoliberal Russians or common parasites fled to Georgia, fearing mobilization. The truck’s final destination was the city of Armavir, where the pallets were reloaded onto another truck, which headed toward Crimea.
The explosives were placed in rolls of plastic food wraps. it was done in such a way that it was not visible on the X-ray control, because of the multi-layer plastic.
This was apparently done in Bulgaria. Because it seems unlikely that bales of tightly twisted plastic food wraps with explosive material inside could have been repacked on the way.
This indicates that, in addition to Ukraine, intelligence services of NATO countries are apparently involved in the organization of this terrorist attack.
The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation reports that the driver of the first truck is already testifying. Most likely, like the driver of the second truck, he was used blindly and didn’t know what he was carrying.
Paybacks:
The Crimean Bridge: NATO Appears Involved
OCTOBER 9, 2022 ALGORA BLOG 2 COMMENTS
Spread the Word
via South Front
Based on data from military correspondent Alexander Kots and official Russian sources
Two trucks were involved in the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge.
The head of the Russian Investigative Committee, Alexander Bastrykin, reported to Vladimir Putin that there is no doubt that the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge was carried out by the Ukrainian special services. Russian and foreign citizens took part in it at various stages of preparation.
“We have already established the route of the truck, where the explosion took place. Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, North Ossetia, Krasnodar… The carriers have been identified. With the help of operatives of the FSB, we managed to identify suspects among those who might have been preparing a terrorist attack,” Bastrykin stressed.
Two heavy-duty trucks were involved in this operation. The cargo were 22 pallets of plastic food wraps, 9 rolls each (one pallet weighs about a ton), that arrived in the Georgian port of Poti from Bulgaria by sea. The ordering customer was a citizen of Ukraine. Then it was loaded onto a truck with foreign license numbers. The driver of the first truck communicated with the ordering customer via WhatsApp. Further, the truck went from Georgian port of Poti to Armenia, where the cargo was customs cleared according to the rules of the Eurasian Customs Union. This is a typical, unsuspicious route for truckers traveling to Russia.
Then the trucks entered Russian territory through the Verkhny Lars checkpoint. The same one through which several thousand neoliberal Russians or common parasites fled to Georgia, fearing mobilization. The truck’s final destination was the city of Armavir, where the pallets were reloaded onto another truck, which headed toward Crimea.
The explosives were placed in rolls of plastic food wraps. it was done in such a way that it was not visible on the X-ray control, because of the multi-layer plastic.
This was apparently done in Bulgaria. Because it seems unlikely that bales of tightly twisted plastic food wraps with explosive material inside could have been repacked on the way.
This indicates that, in addition to Ukraine, intelligence services of NATO countries are apparently involved in the organization of this terrorist attack.
The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation reports that the driver of the first truck is already testifying. Most likely, like the driver of the second truck, he was used blindly and didn’t know what he was carrying.
Paybacks:
1John
2:15 Se that ye love not the worlde nether the thynges that are in the worlde. Yf eny man love the worlde the love of the father is not in him.
2:16 For all that is in the worlde (as the lust of the flesshe the lust of the eyes and the pryde of gooddes) is not of the father: but of the worlde