Unable/Unwilling

[Iconoclast]

The Biblicist

More irrational non-germane gibberish

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you read another of vans posts:laugh:

Of course we are active in reception of the gospel! It is absolutely foolish to deny universal natural inability as Jesus plainly states the doctrine "NO MAN CAN come"! He is specifically speaking of universal ("No man") Inability ("can) because the only possible exception is not NATURAL but SUPERNATURAL - "except the Father" intervention.

although generic faith is naturally inherent, saving faith is not naturally inherent for any fallen human - because if it were then Christ would never have said "NO MAN CAN COME TO ME" if all COULD come to him.

The absolutely ridiculous and totally irrational gibberish of van

yes..no matter how many times he repeats it:wavey:

that coming to Christ is "arrival Spiritually" is completely repudiated by scriptures

:laugh:...shocking!!!



as coming is ACTIVE voice proving it is an action of the person coming. However, "arriving spiritually" into a STATE or CONDITION of "in Christ" is directly stated to be an CREATIVE act of God ("created in Christ Jesus" - Eph. 2:10) wherein we are PASSIVE.

However, it is this kind of absolute nonsensical and irrational gibberish that is just repeated over and over again like some parrot on steroids.

like some parrot on steroids....yes:laugh:

 

[JamesL]

What do you mean "my mortal body"? My mortal body has had life since the day I was conceived. My heart has been pumping ever since it was formed.
The Bible says:
[FONT=&quot]Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.[/FONT]
--We wait for the redemption of our bodies. Our bodies will be redeemed at the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Are you not a teacher, and you don't know these things?