"Undercover Christians" on BB?

Is that why you post on here so much?

Sorry I couldn't resist...just kidding </font>[/QUOTE]I was afraid Texas might be talking about all of us and I was hiding undercover.

I have noticed when we travel on cruises that we meet all kinds of "important" people. One worked for NASA. One was submarine captain. Oh and there are plenty of doctors just ready to give "free" medical advice. Makes one wonder.

Actually, the ones that have been at our dinner table have all checked out as we have corresponded with them after the cruise. I believe my favorite was Santa Claus from Florida. Really. He looked liked Santa, but didn't tell us at first that he and his wife make their home like the North Pole each year and dress like Mr. and Mrs. Claus.

Seriously, we do have to be very careful about the people that we meet on line.

 

Thanks Rachel for that advice...I have experenced first hand on this board that it is not wise to give out personal info. Lots of people who call themselves Christians....who don't act like it. I have been told on here I am someone else...I already feel my reputation has been ruined. I hope it isn't too late </font>[/QUOTE]You're right...there are many people who call themselves Christian's who don't act like it. </font>[/QUOTE]You got that right Rachel.

 

Integrity, is defined in the dictionary as ‘steadfast adherence
to a strict moral or ethical code’ but we can more simply
understand it as ‘a willingness to do what is right even
when no one is looking’. Individuals with high integrity
often also display courage, honesty, accountability, responsibility,
self-respect, openness, humility, and honor.
These are all traits which we value and seek to foster at BB = Baptist Board.

In my 21 years on public Bulletin Boards* i've frequently (about 6 times)
been the Moderator or Administrator of various Bulletin Boards.
I have to give a hand to Webmaster, making a successful Bulletin
Board is an extensive endeavor. Likewise I have to give a hand to
the Administrators and Moderators here who do a good job administrating and
moderating (it apparently is a job requirement - perform or get fired)


*Note: I didn't say "21 years on the Internet", I said "21 years
on public Bulletin Boards".

Unfortunately some folk who frequent the bb = bulletin boards,
are not people of integrity. I shall discuss one. This happened long
ago and far away (in a sense though it is nearyby in time and space).
If you happen to recoginize the person i describe, you will be discrete
and not mention what you know. I'll call the person 'Alan' though I
can't call him by his real name cause I don't know Alan's real name.
He is probably not any Alan you know or ever will know, at least i
hope so.

Alan found a chink in AOL's armor. AOL = American On Line, current
champion of responsibility on the internet, former foster of
complete undercover activities both good and ill. Anyway, the
IPs = Internet Protocalls, assigned by AOL were dynamically assigned.
As a non-AOL person I had an IP from my vendor that was assigned to
my machine, so net activitiey could be related back to me. But on
AOL each session, you got one of AOL's millions of IP addresses.

We were in a group EASY BOARDS that gave out bb=bulletin boards for
free (later they sold ads, then sold protection from the ads?).
You could be a member of all the bbs. They didn't check to see about
multiple members. Alan must have had a reminder every Tuesday
to make a new AOL identity and a new EazyBoard identity - never can
tell when it might come in handy. So Alan would show up with a
two year old idenity - couldn't be a repeat idenity, could it?

Anyway, the story I want to tell is about when Alan got mad at
the owner of a bb = bulletin board. It was a religious comfort zone,
and i guess he couldn't succeed at one, so he got mad at the successful.
I was administrating the bb. He told us he would make trouble for us,
and after about three weeks, he did right on 4th of July week-end
when i could stay home and fight Alan. He wrote a very ugly
"you are going to hell because of your sins" to several groups.
Only one group caused us trouble, but that was good for a week and we
had to close up: membership by approval only, posts by approval only,
password protected forums, etc.

Here were the groups that Alan sent "you are evil" posts to.
He made it look like he was the owner of the target bb: using
the owners user name with an 'o' at the end of 13 letters instead
of an 'e'.

1. Role Playing Gamers.
They didn't care, they were playing their role games and knew it
wasn't bad. I told them that Alan was a doppleganger - they knew
that is a demon that poses as someone else with the object of fooling them.

2. Mom's day out group.
Super Mom just closed up her bb so only who she wanted to post could post
and it wasn't me.

3. Some gay boys.
I told them we were hertosexuals and could care less about homosexuals,
there is room on different bbs for both.

4. Some ravers
They were high (probably) and didn't get the 'trick' that was put on
them by Alan. They gave me trouble for weeks. Unfortuantely they used
their web of bbs to plan their attack on me. I'd go read up and
see what they were going to do and stop it dead in it's tracks.
I sure had fun banning people only by association

 

That's ok say what you want instigators.

I was very encouraged today when I received a pm from someone who said I made a difference in their life. He said he enjoyed my posting and not to be threatened by mean people. That obeying God was more important than pleasing man. That he is taking my advice. That was a small portion of his encouragement

I promised him I would not mention his name....but if he wanted he had my permission to post his pm to me on the board....that it doesn't matter what liberals say...that if one stands for Gods word....his word will not return void and will do what it was set out to do.

I was also encouraged ( by pm's ) this week by a couple of people who totally agreed with me about a thread I started...who also said not to worry about those who were attacking me that I was right.

I know who to look out for so give it up
Matthew 7:20 "And you shall know them by their fruit" and so do others....you only hurt yourselves by being mean spirited.

Sharon

 

On a forum I am a moderator of we had someone trolling using AOL to evade an IP ban. I ended up banning a subnet of AOL temporarily. It worked because the board is relatively small so the odds of someone else posting from that same subnet of AOL were low. It's generally not a recommended tactic, though!

 

General Baptist Discussions
"Undercover Christians" on BB? (Page 3)

While this is true of the open BB = Baptist Board, it is
even more true of private communications (PM = private message
and E-mail). On the open board one has accountability - all can see
what was said. In PMs only two parties should be privy to the
conversation. So PMs are much more private AND MORE SUBJECT TO ABUSE
by the internet abuser/stalker.

Psa 58:3-5 (KJV1611 Edition):
The wicked are estranged from the wombe, they goe astray as soone
as they be borne, speaking lies.
4 Their poison is like the poyson of a serpent;
they are like the deafe adder that stoppeth her eare:
5 Which will not hearken to the voyce of charmers,
charming neuer so wisely.

Some adders may use PMs

Consider this rule of the Baptist Board (BB):

4. Personal attacks will not be tolerated. The board has
an edit button enabled. We encourage you to use it and edit
your own words. Moderators and Administrators will be visibly
proactive in dealing with potentially offensive situations.
Posts of a violent or threatening nature, either implicitly
or explicitly, will be deleted, and the poster's membership
revoked. We encourage personal problems with other members
be resolved privately via email or personal messaging.

This does suggest using "email or personal messaging" for
personal problems. This is to get and keep personal attacks
off the BB. Any other side messageing should always be
suspect. Suspect it in the manner that Sister donnA suggests above.

Sock puppet masters use PMs to control their sock puppets

 

While I agree, these people are easier to identify than the ones who are NOT Christians, but act like Christians. One can really be fooled by them and they usually cause more trouble and problems in one's life.

(Disclaimer: I'm not referring to any one particular person. Just a general observation during my lifetime. So please, do not take this personally.)

 

I also use a fake name.

I'm actually Sis. James Reed.

Shhh, don't tell anyone.

 

I know who you are--you're my insurance agent! His name is James Reed. I never noticed before.

 

I am looking at this in a little different perspective.I know some of the folks on the board here by thier real identities.Some of our members are pretty heavywieght folks.This is a place for them to come and relax,have some fellowship and just be themselves.In addition by not revealing who they are, that frees everybody up to discuss issues with them freely also without being intimidated by who they are.

So we have freedom of communication and safety as benefits by remaining anonymous which I think serves everybody well.

 

I use my real initials.

No, I'm not Judas Iscariot.

 

I have yet to meet anyone on here that intimidates me.

I doubt there is anyone on here who could intimidate me.

I am a pretty good "heavyweight" myself. That does not negate the fact that we are all, whether Joel Osteen, or Rick Warren, or Billy Graham, or President Bush, are all filthy worms before the Almighty God.

I would not change the tone, wording, or purposes of my posts even if I knew any of these men, or others of similar "stardom" were posting here.

I simply do not care.

As for me, I live in Cypress, Texas. My name is James Reed. I work in the Galleria. If any of you want to hunt me down, please do so with caution. For you see, I'm 6'5", weigh 400lbs., have a pretty nasty temper, and I carry a gun. BRING IT ON! If you shoot me, you'd better be a good shot because you will not get a second chance.

 

Ladies and Gentlemen - the issue is really very simple.

The Internet is full of pretenders, liars, crooks, pedophiles and dangerous predators.

With someone's name a preditor can pay a low fee of $19.45 and get their home phone number and address.

With a phone number, you can get their name, and possibly their address.

With their address, you can get a satellite image of their front door and a map to their house.

We warn our children, (at least intelligent parents do), not to give strangers personal information. Adults should lead by example.

Would you go into a crack-house and post your home phone number and address? Would you go into a house-of-ill-repute and post it?

All it takes is one predator to ruin your life.

As Christians you have a certain responsibility to protect yourself and your family. Posting a lot of personal information on the World Wide Web is ~not~ the smart thing to do. EVEN if the sight is meant for Christians.

The fact is, not everyone who comes to a Christian sight IS a Christian.

 

All you really need on line to find their house and a map is their name and the right places to search. Like the state land property web site. Was able to find pictures of peoples houses I know(plus the value and what they gave for it, their yearly taxes, most people have no idea everything about them in on line, if it is public record)), since we don't own ours we aren't there, did an extensive search for us and found nothing.

 

I was recognized by my pic and screen name (from BB) once at a funeral and it freaked me out. So I removed my pic. The person seemed very upstanding, but it gave me a good scare.

 

Whoa! That's crazy! I don't know. I think it might be kind of cool to randomly run into a fellow BB'er.

 

I too would welcome running into a Brother, or Sister BB'er, however; I would leave it up to them to approach me. I would never approach them.
I love, and respect, too many people on this board to ever do anything that would scare them. We are Brothers and Sisters, and part of the Family of God. I was brought up that you protect your Family.
The concerns expressed on this forum are real. I know. My Daughter's ex-fiance is now serving prison time for using a computer to try and pickup a 13 year old girl over the internet.
I trust, and love, all my friends on BB, however; I too choose to identify myself by an "assumed name". Not only for my protection, but for the protection of everyone who uses this Board.
"Names have been changed to protect the innocent". We all have to look out for, and protect each other. Jesus wouldn't have it any other way.

Rob

 

But you just signed your real name at the bottom!

 

Chipsgirl,
Yes I did sign my first name. There is more then one "Rob" in Michigan.
I trust you, and everybody else on BB that much.

Rob

 

Please don't confuse me with Dr. Bob though. I'm afraid that it would give me a false honor, and insult Dr. Bob.

Rob