United We Stand---What happened to that Sentiment?

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No. You’re laughable.

Are you a Trump supporter ? No.

Have you made fun of Trump supporters ? Yes.

So I ask again, and I did ask first, do you want us only uniting in hatred for Trump ?

Where have I made fun of Trump supporters? Show me! ... in fact I support him on many levels..but I don’t like him as a person anymore than I don’t like Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton...but what of it? What’s your big problem.... that I can’t condone his misbehavior that I find childish...too bad.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Why do you expect us to unite with people we dislike?

Who is us? See how you are framing the question? It’s us vs them, so are you already at war and now here is the got ya question...is that where Christ tells ya to be?

And Reynolds, I don’t need an answer from you...honestly that is between you and God.

 

[Matt Black]

Obama and Bush decry deep US divisions without naming Trump - Obama and Bush decry deep US divisions

 

[HankD]

Obama and Bush decry deep US divisions without naming Trump - Obama and Bush decry deep US divisions

Looks like the establishment got his message (the message of the deplorables).

HankD

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Where have I made fun of Trump supporters? Show me! ... in fact I support him on many levels..but I don’t like him as a person anymore than I don’t like Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton...but what of it? What’s your big problem.... that I can’t condone his misbehavior that I find childish...too bad.

What is so difficult about answering my original question. You want us United in what way ? Against him ? For him ? What ?

 

[Calminian]

You have nuts on the left and on the right, but we are all Americans correct?

Yes, which is why we should all stand for the Flag and Anthem. This is basic to unity. It shouldn't be legally compelled, but we can only stand if we all.... well, stand!

 

[Calminian]

Looks like the establishment got his message (the message of the deplorables).

HankD

Interesting. Two of the most divisive Presidents in history.

 

[Calminian]

Where have I made fun of Trump supporters? Show me! ... in fact I support him on many levels..but I don’t like him as a person anymore than I don’t like Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton...but what of it? What’s your big problem.... that I can’t condone his misbehavior that I find childish...too bad.

The only meaningful support is your vote. Anything else is just lip service.

 

[TCassidy]

Americans are a people who respect the democratic principle of government. Of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is we, the people, who decide who our leaders will be, according to the US Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land.

When the people have spoken it is incumbent upon all liberty loving people, who respect the democratic process by which we elect leadership, to honor that decision of the people.

Liberty loving people honor the office the man is elected to, and we honor the person the people have elected. We may disagree with some or even all of the principles by which that person governs or lives, but we may NOT disrespect the man nor the office without disrespecting the will of the people who put him there.

And disrespecting the foundational principle of our republic is to disrespect the Constitution, the flag, and the people who make up this great nation. To reject the will of the people is to commit treason against the very basis of our form of government.

I did not like many of President Obama's policies. I believe he was a weak President who did much damage to our international reputation. But the people spoke, twice. He was my President. And I respected both him and the office he occupied. To do otherwise would have been unamerican.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yes, which is why we should all stand for the Flag and Anthem. This is basic to unity. It shouldn't be legally compelled, but we can only stand if we all.... well, stand!

With the money they make today, do you seriously think they care. NFL coaches can hardly control them which suggests they are out of control. Could you imagine Lombardi or Landry playing coy with these guys. If you had so much as a beer the night before, Vince would run you till you passed out or threw up! Now if the owners start taking away their money....maybe fire some of them....but they don't have the er ah...guts!

bottom line, I don't watch NFL games anymore. You guys have turned me off!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Americans are a people who respect the democratic principle of government. Of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is we, the people, who decide who our leaders will be, according to the US Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land.

When the people have spoken it is incumbent upon all liberty loving people, who respect the democratic process by which we elect leadership, to honor that decision of the people.

Liberty loving people honor the office the man is elected to, and we honor the person the people have elected. We may disagree with some or even all of the principles by which that person governs or lives, but we may NOT disrespect the man nor the office without disrespecting the will of the people who put him there.

And disrespecting the foundational principle of our republic is to disrespect the Constitution, the flag, and the people who make up this great nation. To reject the will of the people is to commit treason against the very basis of our form of government.

I did not like many of President Obama's policies. I believe he was a weak President who did much damage to our international reputation. But the people spoke, twice. He was my President. And I respected both him and the office he occupied. To do otherwise would have been unamerican.

He didnt win the popular vote.

 

[Revmitchell]

He didnt win the popular vote.

So?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

He didnt win the popular vote.

There is no such thing as a popular vote. Perhaps if you knew this you would be more willing to stand united ?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

So?

so he has no claim for having the voting right amongst the majority of voters. BTW, here is a guy who foisted that Birther thing against Obama.....so where was his own personal loyalty to the country & the sitting president?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

What ? Because he lost the “popular” vote ?

Do you even know what you’re talking about ?

 

[Revmitchell]

so he has no claim for having the voting right amongst the majority of voters.

What does that even mean? When did he say this?

guy who foisted that Birther thing against Obama.....so where was his own personal loyalty to the country & the sitting president?

Uh Hillary "foisted" that and Obama made it a big issue by working to hide it himself.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yea right

WIKI STUFF

2016: Donald Trump


Hillary Clinton (left) won more of the popular vote than elected President Donald Trump (right) in 2016.
The 2016 presidential election featured Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton (former U.S. Senator from New York, Secretary of State, and First Lady to President Bill Clinton) and Republican nominee Donald Trump, a billionaire businessman (owner of the Trump Organization[20][21]) from New York City, who had no prior political experience or service in the military. Both nominees had turbulent journeys in primary races,[22][23] and were seen unfavorably by the general public.[24] The election saw multiple third party candidates,[25] and there were over a million write-in votes cast.[26]

Most national and swing state polls favored Clinton, who was strongly favored to win by most media outlets.[27] However, Trump exceeded expectations on Election Day, especially in the Rust Belt where he swept the traditionally Democratic states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin by narrow margins.[28] Clinton recorded lop-sided margins in large states such as California, Illinois and New York while keeping Texas, Arizona and Georgia unusually close for a recent Democratic nominee.[29] Clinton also won safe Democratic medium-sized states such as Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Washington with vast margins. Clinton managed to edge out Trump in Virginia, a swing state where her running mate Tim Kaine had served as Governor. Trump also won traditional swing state Florida by a tight margin along with Republican-leaning North Carolina, further contributing to the electoral flip of the popular vote. Trump won by a large margin in Indiana, Missouri, Ohio and Tennessee with most of Trump's larger wins coming in smaller states.

When the Electoral College cast its votes on December 19, 2016,[30] Trump received 304 votes to Clinton's 227 with seven electors defecting to other choices, the most faithless electors (2 from Trump, 5 from Clinton) in any presidential election in over a hundred years. Clinton had nonetheless received almost three million more votes (65,853,516 to 62,984,825) in the general election than Trump, giving Clinton a popular vote lead of 2.1% over Trump.[29][31]

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What does that even mean? When did he say this?





Uh Hillary "foisted" that and Obama made it a big issue by working to hide it himself.

And so just what was Trumps involvement in it.....IE, was he complicit?

 

[TCassidy]

He didnt win the popular vote.

<Sigh> There is no national popular vote for President and Vice President.

Every election is at the state level. The states elect the Representatives by districts. The states elect the Senators. The states elect the electors for President and Vice President.

The whole "He lost the popular vote" is meaningless and displays a sad lack of understanding of our electoral process.

He can't have lost something that does not exist. The President and Vice President are elected by the Electoral College. President Trump won 30 of the states, with 306 electoral votes. Hillary Clinton won 20 states with 230 electoral votes. (Two Texas electors did not vote for President Trump even though he won the state, but according to state law those maverick votes don't count so some say he only received 304 votes.)

Come on. This is 5th grade civics.

 

[Revmitchell]

And so just what was Trumps involvement in it.....IE, was he complicit?

Ok well there is a vast difference in starting something and what Trump did. Since Obama made it an issue (which was never resolved by the way) because he refused to deliver evidence that was equally complicit in anything anyone else did. What Trump did was offer money for evidence.