Unmarried Couples Going Camping

[Steven2006]

I almost never report a post, but this one crossed the line. As Webdog has said it is a violation of BB rules to question anothers salvation.

I agree, I missed that post until webdog quoted it. Sad to see Christians resort to that attitude towards other Christians. What a shame.

 

[dwmoeller1]

I almost never report a post, but this one crossed the line. As Webdog has said it is a violation of BB rules to question anothers salvation.

Personally, I would prefer it stayed. Its a classic example of the end result of the legalists' argument. I have already had my salvation questioned by Bill Gothard himself so it doesn't really bother me when lesser legalists do the same.

 

[annsni]

Personally, I would prefer it stayed. Its a classic example of the end result of the legalists' argument. I have already had my salvation questioned by Bill Gothard himself so it doesn't really bother me when lesser legalists do that same.

I'm impressed!! Bill Gothard?? I only had my salvation questioned by Steve Anderson.

 

[dwmoeller1]

I'm impressed!! Bill Gothard?? I only had my salvation questioned by Steve Anderson.

Clearly I am a much worse Christian than you

 

[menageriekeeper]

You know, I had to do a google search to see who this gothard fella was. I'm impressed to! (and I sure hope all folk don't associate homeschooling with him, he's sorta scary. wait...scary, halloween...hmmm, I wonder if he'd make a good decoration. :laugh: )

 

[PrivateWoman]

I'm impressed!! Bill Gothard?? I only had my salvation questioned by Steve Anderson.

I know this is off topic and has nothing to do with my posting, but I am curious about which Steve Anderson you are referring to.

Are you referring to Pastor Steve Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Arizona? There are a number of things I disagree with him on.

I think that Bill Gothard was at a conference that I went to about 13 years ago. It was a good conference.

 

[annsni]

I know this is off topic and has nothing to do with my posting, but I am curious about which Steve Anderson you are referring to.

Are you referring to Pastor Steve Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Arizona? There are a number of things I disagree with him on.

I think that Bill Gothard was at a conference that I went to about 13 years ago. It was a good conference.

Yep. THAT Steve Anderson. He was a member here. For a very short time.

 

[Luke2427]

Actually, the steadfast in my screen name is not lifting myself up, it is a reminder that I am unmovable in many of my core beliefs.

Being steadfast is not evil, so there is no appearance of evil in saying I am steadfast in my beliefs. It is no different than Paul saying, "I lie not." (Ro 9:1) Was Paul boasting? Certainly not!

And neither am I.

No, Steadfast Fred, you missed the point. The point is I can take that passage and make anything evil. I don't think your name is evil as I made abundantly clear. But I can use the same type of exegesis of the "appearance of evil" passage and make your name evil and anything else I don't like.

You declaring that cohabitating a tent is sin is a perfect example of stretching the passage too far. That is my point as I actually think is really pretty clear.

 

[Luke2427]

It has been my experience that when someone stands against even the idea of holiness they call another a legalist. Thank you! I realize suggesting that having her own tent is way over the line in today's world and the mind set of the people and it does infringe on her right to look to the world as a slut and bring dishonor on the Lord, even if she is not actually engaged in immorality. If I were a betting person, and I am not, I would bet that these people would not like Jesus if they would meet Him in person. He sort of stomps on our rights and calls for us to surrender to His! Ding, ding, ding.

You miss the point. I imagine that none of us think this cohabitation of the tent by young unmarried people is wise. I think most of us would agree that it could be dangerous.

The problem is when people like "steadfast fred" start hurling the word SIN around haphazardly. When you start using that term you'd better have Bible for it or you make yourself a pope- one who speaks for God where God has not spoken. This is a major problem in the Church today and should be resisted at every turn.

 

[Steadfast Fred]

No, Steadfast Fred, you missed the point. The point is I can take that passage and make anything evil. I don't think your name is evil as I made abundantly clear. But I can use the same type of exegesis of the "appearance of evil" passage and make your name evil and anything else I don't like.

You declaring that cohabitating a tent is sin is a perfect example of stretching the passage too far. That is my point as I actually think is really pretty clear.

And how do you come to the conclusion that I am stretching the passage too far? By your own reasoning? your own standards?

 

[Luke2427]

And how do you come to the conclusion that I am stretching the passage too far? By your own reasoning? your own standards?

By common sense. It is no different than the way I used it to condemn your name. that whole anecdote about your name is the reasoning I used to condemn your eisegesis of the passage.

 

[dwmoeller1]

And how do you come to the conclusion that I am stretching the passage too far? By your own reasoning? your own standards?

By your own standards. By the fact that you are willing to apply it to some things but not others, even though many Christians might say it applies. So, by your own standard you judge yourself.