unvaccinated a threat to the nation, the LEFT now says

[dad2]

I got Covid the last week of may. I almost died from it. They placed me in a ward in the hospital. with other covid patients. I was scared out of my wits when a man in my room died the first day I was there. Strange as it may seem I was like some of you not willing to risk it. A fellow Christian in my church warned me that this shot could be the mark of the devil. Another told us that it hasn't been tested enough and her father died from it.

When I came home from the hospital I heard on the news you can get it more than once. I went and got vaccinated twice. If the Lord comes before this is over with My Savoir will know I did all I could do to live. I didn't give up on life even though I sometimes feel like I should. I'm 77 years years young I have diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis.not to mention several other ails.I've known pain for a long time. It lets me know I haven't lost yet. The Lord is always with me.Because I'm saved by the Blood of Christ and have no fear of going home to be with my Lord.
MB

Right, let it be done unto them according to their faith.It might be nice if all these deaths were reported properly though,

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

True. On one hand people are dying of COVID, and people are using fear to persuade others to get vaccinated regardless of risk category. And on the other hand, people do get sick from the vaccine (thus far people have not died from the vacvine itself, but that is always a possibility). And people are using this fear to persuade others not to get vaccinated.

Too many are mastered by fear (vax and non-vax folks).

I keep thinking of an old show....Fantasy Island, I believe....where a woman went back in time and gave aspirin to someone, only to be declared a witch.

Dieing could be relevant in various degrees. In my family’s situation, the parents are advised to vaccinate their 3 yo against whatever virus that is out there at the time and so the young couple put their faith and trust in the medical professionals and their inoculation program. Only it goes horribly wrong and causes a high fever that burns out the brain stem of the child. Now there is a situation you might call, “the end of the innocence!” Imagine that happening to your first born, because I’m going to suggest that it feels like death. Now that child has not died, the parents have prayed for a miracle but the best they get is a broken brain damaged former self of a happy playful toddler they once had (again a kind of death). And I stop here to remember the picture album... the one filled with happy parents so proud and in love with that most adorable child to the shock and sadness that is reflected after that crisis event. Another death in grief occurs.

And it goes on and on and on. I was the second child of that fractured family, one that they all encouraged the parents to have I was to bring happiness and stability to the family... only my mothers mental exhaustion caused break downs as she struggled to cope (another death of sorts). And this struggle for balance and sanity goes on and on and on... till death truly reared it’s ugly head by stress giving a lethal heart attack to my father at 39 years old ... leaving us without a father.

So actions have consequences. Taking that shot without any guarantees, without any legal recourse to manufacturers of experimental untested concoctions that yea will not kill ya immediately but it could kill your soul and of those around you... slowly.

Thank God for Christ who conquered death.

 

[MB]

Right, let it be done unto them according to their faith.It might be nice if all these deaths were reported properly though,

We don't really know that because of conflicting information. The fear mongers are fighting for control.Who do we believe? I was caught up in that bull too. I have enough on my plate right now just trying to get my strength back. Just walking has become very hard but not impossible. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean you won't get it. Yet it does mean you have a better chance of survival. Far too many are all ready dead. The Bible says to choose life. This is what I'm doing
MB

 

[Van]

The links are not what anyone demanded actually. You need to prove that the actual deaths FROM covid itself are the numbers quoted in the links! Now if we look around the world, when they use the same vaccines, one would expect the numbers would be somewhat similar. However when we see very high numbers in one area and high numbers saying the opposite in another area, that means something is rotten in Denmark. (if MOST of the dead in Israel, for example were vaccinated, and the Biden regime or US sources said '99%' of the dead were UNvaccinated, that really should tell us something) Sorry you missed it.

Yeah, my links are invalid. Your views are valid. Got it.

 

[dad2]

We don't really know that because of conflicting information. The fear mongers are fighting for control.Who do we believe? I was caught up in that bull too. I have enough on my plate right now just trying to get my strength back. Just walking has become very hard but not impossible. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean you won't get it. Yet it does mean you have a better chance of survival. Far too many are all ready dead. The Bible says to choose life. This is what I'm doing
MB

Right, well I am trying to avoid it if at all possible because I do not trust them. It is not covid that concerns me so much as the draconian measures and experimental needles being pushed on people..

 

[dad2]

Yeah, my links are invalid. Your views are valid. Got it.

The disparity in who is supposedly infected and why locations shows that the credibility of the media and govt is invalid. Or did you think this was some contest on who could believe known killers and liars the most?

 

[Van]

The disparity in who is supposedly infected and why locations shows that the credibility of the media and govt is invalid. Or did you think this was some contest on who could believe known killers and liars the most?

There is no problem. Some people misrepresent reality to create problems to sell their useless propaganda. The side that says ignore your doctors are disinformationalists.

 

[MB]

Dieing could be relevant in various degrees. In my family’s situation, the parents are advised to vaccinate their 3 yo against whatever virus that is out there at the time and so the young couple put their faith and trust in the medical professionals and their inoculation program. Only it goes horribly wrong and causes a high fever that burns out the brain stem of the child. Now there is a situation you might call, “the end of the innocence!” Imagine that happening to your first born, because I’m going to suggest that it feels like death. Now that child has not died, the parents have prayed for a miracle but the best they get is a broken brain damaged former self of a happy playful toddler they once had (again a kind of death). And I stop here to remember the picture album... the one filled with happy parents so proud and in love with that most adorable child to the shock and sadness that is reflected after that crisis event. Another death in grief occurs.

And it goes on and on and on. I was the second child of that fractured family, one that they all encouraged the parents to have I was to bring happiness and stability to the family... only my mothers mental exhaustion caused break downs as she struggled to cope (another death of sorts). And this struggle for balance and sanity goes on and on and on... till death truly reared it’s ugly head by stress giving a lethal heart attack to my father at 39 years old ... leaving us without a father.

So actions have consequences. Taking that shot without any guarantees, without any legal recourse to manufacturers of experimental untested concoctions that yea will not kill ya immediately but it could kill your soul and of those around you... slowly.

Thank God for Christ who conquered death.

This is certainly sad my condolences to that couple. Things happen man isn't perfect but we must all remember none of us are. We can't say it was the vaccine and while death is lurking around trying to steel the young. Our best option is always life. It's true we sometimes make the wrong choice and sometimes we make the right one and it doesn't work Choice like these is always best at the advice of God. We all need to pray and ask for guidance. If the worst happens we have to accept it as God's will. He takes people home all the time. Going home isn't a bad thing people are dying to get there.

Sometime God seems unfair especially when it is you suffering. Those who suffer I believe will be blessed in ways we can't even imagine..
Be blessed Jon. You I believe to be a good man at heart
MB

 

[Van]

In order to prevent people from forming cohesive organizations to achieve public good, the Marxists use propaganda to get as many people as possible into physiological cells. They believe no one, they trust no one, they are afraid, very afraid, and they ignore even their family and friends.

 

[dad2]

There is no problem. Some people misrepresent reality to create problems to sell their useless propaganda. The side that says ignore your doctors are disinformationalists.

Why respond with foolishness rather than addressing the truth and issues here? The disparity between how many vaxxed and unvaxxed people die in different places shows that the numbers somewhere, if not everywhere are a fraud. The issue is not how much you may love disinformation or not. The issue is that there is false media numbers being thrust on us. Deal with it.

 

[Wingman68]

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This shows you these people aren't anything but a scare you site

They broke down the numbers provided by VAERS. Do you have a problem with that? I found the easiest chart to post up, sorry it got you in a wad. If you were on a ventilator, & are here to talk about, God was with you. Use this extra time He gave you with joy. Cheers, MB

 

[JonC]

Right, and people familiar with truth should know that if we want truth, the media is not the place to find it. We should also know that the regimes such as those in Canada and the US stand for evil in many ways. The media also. The proof believers would want comes from God and His word. Does God want millions to starve over hyped up lockdowns? Does God want babies killed and their bodies used for various purposes like research? Does God want to hush up cures for a disease while promoting only one method that requires believing liars and a heavy handed power grab as well? Does God want believers to be able to meet, or would He prefer muting worship songs, meetings, bible studies and etc? Does God want all people on earth to receive an experimental needle to be able to buy or sell or move? Believers might weigh in with the bible to see what is from God and what has bad fruit.

Right, I think the better policy might be to automatically disbelieve mainstream media unless evidenced and confirmed, and to also take all media with a grain of salt. Everything the known liars of mainstream media say should be tossed out of court so to speak.


For the world, truth is whatever they wish that particular day, that is about right. However the actual truth changes not. When we know the truth in our hearts, the voice of another we will not follow. His sheep know His voice. They can tell when the wolves are pretending to be good. When we see a wicked regime advocating mass murder of babies, and the molestation of children with lies and unnatural sexual teachings, and the hatred of God and His word, and the persecution of believers, and etc -we can know that whatever it says is probably sinister and dangerous and wrong! As for the articles saying that there are many ways to fight the bio weapon disease and it's variants the question we should be asking is why has this not been promoted and at the front and centre of the approach to deal with it? Instead it is obvious that such alternatives have been attacked and buried since the days of Trump in the media.

I understand. Most people I know did the same. The only fix offered was basically the shots. Personally. I do not like the folks advocating this new world order and 'reality' such as the Biden regime, the Trudeau regime, social media giants, the mainstream media propaganda machine, Fauci or the medical system heads and voices hired by governments, etc. I lean toward Psalm 1 as my guide there. Blessed is the man that walketh not in the council of the ungodly!


I never said you did fear. The people I know had mixed reasons for getting the experimental needles. Some did fear because of compromised health. Some had worked in the system and basically just had blind trust in it, as well as a distrust for anyone questioning it as a whole. Others just wanted to travel soon, and not be treated as outcasts or disadvantaged financially etc.

I kee it simple. I live in my community, so how the virus has impacted my community has tge largest effect....affect?...on how I view the vaccine. I can name a dozen people I know who have died of COVID (another dozen who died of pre-existing conditions complicated by COVID). I know people in their 20's who suffered strokes because of COVID. I know others who experienced severe, lasting health effects because of COVID (one committed suicide because he could not live with the issues). All of those were not vaccinated.

I know dozens who got the vaccine with no issues. I do not know of anyone who had severe reactions to the vaccine, or anyone who died of the vaccine.

That trumps any internet news.

 

[JonC]

Dieing could be relevant in various degrees. In my family’s situation, the parents are advised to vaccinate their 3 yo against whatever virus that is out there at the time and so the young couple put their faith and trust in the medical professionals and their inoculation program. Only it goes horribly wrong and causes a high fever that burns out the brain stem of the child. Now there is a situation you might call, “the end of the innocence!” Imagine that happening to your first born, because I’m going to suggest that it feels like death. Now that child has not died, the parents have prayed for a miracle but the best they get is a broken brain damaged former self of a happy playful toddler they once had (again a kind of death). And I stop here to remember the picture album... the one filled with happy parents so proud and in love with that most adorable child to the shock and sadness that is reflected after that crisis event. Another death in grief occurs.

And it goes on and on and on. I was the second child of that fractured family, one that they all encouraged the parents to have I was to bring happiness and stability to the family... only my mothers mental exhaustion caused break downs as she struggled to cope (another death of sorts). And this struggle for balance and sanity goes on and on and on... till death truly reared it’s ugly head by stress giving a lethal heart attack to my father at 39 years old ... leaving us without a father.

So actions have consequences. Taking that shot without any guarantees, without any legal recourse to manufacturers of experimental untested concoctions that yea will not kill ya immediately but it could kill your soul and of those around you... slowly.

Thank God for Christ who conquered death.

I agree. Taking the vacvine could have consequences. Declining the vacvine could have consequences. Thankfully our Home is not of the World.

 

[dad2]

I kee it simple. I live in my community, so how the virus has impacted my community has tge largest effect....affect?...on how I view the vaccine. I can name a dozen people I know who have died of COVID (another dozen who died of pre-existing conditions complicated by COVID). I know people in their 20's who suffered strokes because of COVID. I know others who experienced severe, lasting health effects because of COVID (one committed suicide because he could not live with the issues). All of those were not vaccinated.

I know dozens who got the vaccine with no issues. I do not know of anyone who had severe reactions to the vaccine, or anyone who died of the vaccine.

That trumps any internet news.

I wonder if the number of people who suffered strokes from the vaccine is greater than those who did from (or with) covid? I suppose if the world could go just by your experiences, you might have a point. However there are tens of thousands of medical professionals who opposed the lockdown. There are a great many that oppose the vaccines. There are tens of thousands of deaths and side effects from the vaccine reported and probably a lot more not reported. There is an association with reproduction problems for the vaccine. So I could not recommend it. Nor do I believe the numbers of people that supposedly died from covid! As I posted in a link recently, the criteria in some places for what constitutes a covid death is anything but clear or honest.

 

[Salty]

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[Reynolds]

Dieing could be relevant in various degrees. In my family’s situation, the parents are advised to vaccinate their 3 yo against whatever virus that is out there at the time and so the young couple put their faith and trust in the medical professionals and their inoculation program. Only it goes horribly wrong and causes a high fever that burns out the brain stem of the child. Now there is a situation you might call, “the end of the innocence!” Imagine that happening to your first born, because I’m going to suggest that it feels like death. Now that child has not died, the parents have prayed for a miracle but the best they get is a broken brain damaged former self of a happy playful toddler they once had (again a kind of death). And I stop here to remember the picture album... the one filled with happy parents so proud and in love with that most adorable child to the shock and sadness that is reflected after that crisis event. Another death in grief occurs.

And it goes on and on and on. I was the second child of that fractured family, one that they all encouraged the parents to have I was to bring happiness and stability to the family... only my mothers mental exhaustion caused break downs as she struggled to cope (another death of sorts). And this struggle for balance and sanity goes on and on and on... till death truly reared it’s ugly head by stress giving a lethal heart attack to my father at 39 years old ... leaving us without a father.

So actions have consequences. Taking that shot without any guarantees, without any legal recourse to manufacturers of experimental untested concoctions that yea will not kill ya immediately but it could kill your soul and of those around you... slowly.

Thank God for Christ who conquered death.

Vaccine couldn't have injured that child. Govt says vaccines are safe and don't cause neurological damage.

 

[dad2]

Vaccine couldn't have injured that child. Govt says vaccines are safe and don't cause neurological damage.

I see. Is that why they grant immunity to the vaccine companies? ( I know you are kidding)

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

We don't really know that because of conflicting information. The fear mongers are fighting for control.Who do we believe? I was caught up in that bull too. I have enough on my plate right now just trying to get my strength back. Just walking has become very hard but not impossible. Getting the vaccine doesn't mean you won't get it. Yet it does mean you have a better chance of survival. Far too many are all ready dead. The Bible says to choose life. This is what I'm doing
MB

So how do you know that you are choosing life? What are your guarantees? To me it just sounds like your choosing to roll the dice.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Vaccine couldn't have injured that child. Govt says vaccines are safe and don't cause neurological damage.

The medical reports say otherwise

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I see. Is that why they grant immunity to the vaccine companies? ( I know you are kidding)

Bingo