US Abandoned by Everyone over JCPOA

[Agent47]

Short version:
US slaps tens of sanctions in Iran over terrorism and nuclear enrichment

President Obama and other sober leaders change tact over Iran and sign an agreement known as JCPOA.

Enter the ‘stable genius’ and he pulls out of JCPOA. All other partners stay put

The ‘stable genius’ adds more sanctions on Iran including in its trade partners.

These additional sanctions affect other members of JCPOA

The remaining JCPOA members develop a payment system known as INSTEX to circumvent US sanctions.

This means US will have to slap direct sanctions on its closest allies,UK,Germany and France for circumventing his irrational sanctions over Iran. It also means everyone but Israel and US are firmly behind Iran and JCPOA

Read on:

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Britain, France and Germany have a special trade channel up and running with Iran that aims to circumvent U.S. economic sanctions, the EU said in a statement.

“France, Germany and the United Kingdom informed participants that INSTEX had been made operational and available to all EU Member States and that the first transactions are being processed,” the EU said in a statement, referring to the channel’s formal name.

Iran has also established an entity to trade with Europe, while some more EU countries are joining INSTEX as shareholders, the statement said, following talks between the remaining signatories to the Iran nuclear deal - Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany - after the United States pulled out.

Europe says Iran trade channel operational: statement - Reuters

You can read more about INSTEX here:
What is the EU-Iran payment vehicle INSTEX? | DW | 31.01.2019

https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters...erica-mogherini-creation-instex-instrument_en

 

[GoodTidings]

Pulling out of the JCPOA was the right thing to do. And the sanctions are the right thing to do. Iran's government is an evil, demonic government that would continue building up nuclear weapons, deal or no deal. They had no intention of doing anything they allegedly agreed to and they played off of the stupidity of Obama and Kerry and Europe. They are the #1 exporter of terrorism in the world and used the money they got from idiots like Obama to fund terrorism. The Iranian government needs to be choked out of existence.

And it really doesn't matter if we have to go it alone. If Europe wants to help Iran continue to fund terrorism that is their problem. They will learn the hard way. Once Iran has nukes, no one including Europe will be safe. Churchill said, "He who feeds the crocodile simply gets eaten last."

 

[Agent47]

Pulling out of the JCPOA was the right thing to do. And the sanctions are the right thing to do. Iran's government is an evil, demonic government that would continue building up nuclear weapons, deal or no deal. They had no intention of doing anything they allegedly agreed to and they played off of the stupidity of Obama and Kerry and Europe. They are the #1 exporter of terrorism in the world and used the money they got from idiots like Obama to fund terrorism. The Iranian government needs to be choked out of existence.

And it really doesn't matter if we have to go it alone. If Europe wants to help Iran continue to fund terrorism that is their problem. They will learn the hard way. Once Iran has nukes, no one including Europe will be safe. Churchill said, "He who feeds the crocodile simply gets eaten last."

Us supports Saudis who exports the very terror they pretend to fight.

 

[GoodTidings]

Us supports Saudis who exports the very terror they pretend to fight.

Yes and that is yet another government we need to crush with sanctions instead of rewarding them with deals. We should not be allied with any Islamic nations/entities.

 

[Adonia]

Short version:
US slaps tens of sanctions in Iran over terrorism and nuclear enrichment

President Obama and other sober leaders change tact over Iran and sign an agreement known as JCPOA.

Enter the ‘stable genius’ and he pulls out of JCPOA. All other partners stay put

The ‘stable genius’ adds more sanctions on Iran including in its trade partners.

These additional sanctions affect other members of JCPOA

The remaining JCPOA members develop a payment system known as INSTEX to circumvent US sanctions.

This means US will have to slap direct sanctions on its closest allies,UK,Germany and France for circumventing his irrational sanctions over Iran. It also means everyone but Israel and US are firmly behind Iran and JCPOA

Read on:

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Britain, France and Germany have a special trade channel up and running with Iran that aims to circumvent U.S. economic sanctions, the EU said in a statement.

“France, Germany and the United Kingdom informed participants that INSTEX had been made operational and available to all EU Member States and that the first transactions are being processed,” the EU said in a statement, referring to the channel’s formal name.

Iran has also established an entity to trade with Europe, while some more EU countries are joining INSTEX as shareholders, the statement said, following talks between the remaining signatories to the Iran nuclear deal - Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany - after the United States pulled out.

Europe says Iran trade channel operational: statement - Reuters

You can read more about INSTEX here:
What is the EU-Iran payment vehicle INSTEX? | DW | 31.01.2019

https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters...erica-mogherini-creation-instex-instrument_en

This was an agreement between Obama and the Iranians. Knowing he could not get it through the Senate for ratification as the Constitution mandates, Obama made this little agreement that could be ended by the next incoming Chief Executive. It was, and that my friend is the end of the story.

 

[Adonia]

Us supports Saudis who exports the very terror they pretend to fight.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[Agent47]

Yes and that is yet another government we need to crush with sanctions instead of rewarding them with deals. We should not be allied with any Islamic nations/entities.

But US needs Saudis for the petro dollar,and more importantly to contain Iran. Amazing how Israel and Saudis fight Iran. As I said, self interest governs foreign policy.

 

[GoodTidings]

But US needs Saudis for the petro dollar,and more importantly to contain Iran. Amazing how Israel and Saudis fight Iran. As I said, self interest governs foreign policy.

No, we don't need them. The Saudis are no match for Iran. Iran would roll over them. We are only artificially dependent on the Saudis. We are capable of being energy independent. We have interests in the middle east, namely keeping Russia out of it. But we really don't need Saudi Arabia or any Muslim nation.

 

[Agent47]

No, we don't need them. The Saudis are no match for Iran. Iran would roll over them. We are only artificially dependent on the Saudis. We are capable of being energy independent. We have interests in the middle east, namely keeping Russia out of it. But we really don't need Saudi Arabia or any Muslim nation.

So what drives Trump to overlook Khashoggi’s execution and spite all America stands for by signing new weapons deal in the face of that barbarism?

 

[GoodTidings]

So what drives Trump to overlook Khashoggi’s execution and spite all America stands for by signing new weapons deal in the face of that barbarism?

He got bad advice.

But, Obama went and bowed to the Saudi King, a sign of submission in their culture. It's not like the previous administration cared at all about the human rights violations of Saudi Arabia or Iran, or any other Muslim country. Obama betrayed the Iranian people when they tried to rise up against the Iranian government.

The US government has a habit of labeling countries like Saudi Arabia as, "moderate" when they believe they have an interest in those countries. "Moderate vs. "Extreme" is a western myth. Islam is vile and terroristic at heart. Trump is wrong to sign any deals with Saudi Arabia. All Islamic countries should be considered the enemy of the US and we should have ended all Muslim immigration to the United States after 9/11.

 

[Agent47]

But, Obama went and bowed to the Saudi King, a sign of submission in their culture. It's not like the previous administration cared at all about the human rights violations of Saudi Arabia or Iran, or any other Muslim country. Obama betrayed the Iranian people when they tried to rise up against the Iranian government.

Do you do comedy by any mistake?
You make a horrible comedian

Contrast Trump convoluted and erratic foreign policy with Saudi Arabia and president Obama’s impeccable record

 

[Agent47]

He got bad advice.

That’s what unstable and unhinged losers do. They blame others for their failures

 

[Agent47]

The US government has a habit of labeling countries like Saudi Arabia as, "moderate" when they believe they have an interest in those countries. "Moderate vs. "Extreme" is a western myth. Islam is vile and terroristic at heart.

US can’t contain Russia and China without Islam. Russia is more than willing to step in. So amplify your thinking beyond hatred. If US foreign policy was for a single day dictated by religion then the country would implode. I thought you were smart enough to figure this out by your own

 

[InTheLight]

. As I said, self interest governs foreign policy.

Astounding insight. How long do you figure the world has operated in this manner?

 

[Revmitchell]

I thought you were smart enough to figure this out by your own

You were complaining because someone referred to you as being from the left. Called it an adhominem. What do you think this statement is?

 

[Agent47]

You were complaining because someone refered to you as being from the left. Called it an adhominem. What do you think this statement is?

Since he was not rebuked I thought that’s how you roll

 

[Agent47]

Astounding insight. How long do you figure the world has operated in this manner?

Not sure, I think 20-30 years

 

[GoodTidings]

That’s what unstable and unhinged losers do. They blame others for their failures

Except that Trump isn't losing. And neither is he unhinged. Obama was a traitor as was Hillary. They are guilty of far, far worse things than any administration in history. Trump is angel compared to those two criminals. Both of them should be busting rocks, right now.

 

[Revmitchell]

Since he was not rebuked I thought that’s how you roll

So is that your justification for your inconsistency?

 

[GoodTidings]

Do you do comedy by any mistake?
You make a horrible comedian

Contrast Trump convoluted and erratic foreign policy with Saudi Arabia and president Obama’s impeccable record

Obama was and is as traitor. Obama was the most scandal-ridden president in US history.