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US Abandoned by Everyone over JCPOA

Agent47

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No you won't. The fact is that you don't care about them. This is all about slamming Trump and you can't seem to follow the argument that it is hypocritical to criticize Trump for selling weapons to a country like Saudi Arabia when you had no problem with Obama doing the same thing. So you deflect from that issue to what is happening in Yemen. And the genocide happening in Yemen started on Obama's watch while Obama was selling arms to Saudi Arabia.

Trump has more than doubled arms sales to a country that is busy butchering Yemenis and that chopped up Khashoggi

Sleep over that,maybe you will catch an epiphany
 

GoodTidings

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Class is in session.
Let’s examine these claims

The unstable “genius” inherited a stable and growing employment rates from President Obama.
Only if you think a real unemployment of nearly 16% represents a stable economy. Thinking people don't. When you have an annual GDP that never gets above 2%, that's not a stable economy. Trump is rolling back the regulations Obama put in place, and he is bringing industry back. The reason the economy is so hot is because Trump is dismantling the Obama policies. He inherited a lousy economy from Obama and he is getting rid of what he got from Obama.


Trump is consistently keeping our annual GDP much higher than Obama did. Trump inherited a really lousy economy that Obama and Co. told us was the "new normal." When Trump predicted we could get as high as 4% the Left laughed him to scorn, but we did have a quarterly GDP of 4.1%. All of a sudden, Obama comes out and takes credit for it. Obama took credit for an economy that HE said would never and could never happen. After he was proven wrong, suddenly, the Left is scrambling to find a way to explain why they were wrong.

Obama did raise the GDP up from where it was under Bush, but his numbers weren't any good. It's like saying that 10 degrees below zero is warmer than 50 degrees below zero. Still no heat.

Obama took the economy from the gutters. That’s why he is the most popular while
Obama is not the most popular president, not by a longshot. Obama couldn't get Hillary elected in an election that had been rigged to defeat Trump.

Trump only draws white nationalists
So everyone who supports Trump is a racist??? You really want to go there?
 

GoodTidings

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Trump has more than doubled arms sales to a country that is busy butchering Yemenis and that chopped up Khashoggi

Sleep over that,maybe you will catch an epiphany
That is a different discussion, though. I am not denying that. But you initially used his arms sales as a reason to bash Trump and I am just pointing to the fact that Obama was selling arms to the Saudis that were being used in Yemen. That's the only point my argument addresses. I am just pointing out the inherent hypocrisy in your argument.
 

GoodTidings

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They are not terrible, just hopelessly pathetic. I get it
They were never terrible or pathetic, but this is the kind of immature nonsense you have to resort to in the absence of an intelligent, adult argument. You have nothing intelligent, substantive, mature, or important to contribute. I get it.
 

Agent47

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Obama did raise the GDP up from where it was under Bush, but his numbers weren't any good. It's like saying that 10 degrees below zero is warmer than 50 degrees below zero. Still no heat.

I’m helping you think. Any economy is in a state of flux so it helps to look at trends before proclaiming the unstable “genius” as genius. There are no employment figures worth boasting of as President Obama did it well before.

Think of it as a copilot taking over from a pilot mid flight. Before you brag about the current speed and altitude, remember who got you there in the first place.
 

Benjamin

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I know this, speaking of “genius” I see no genius in the critic here that will be voting in the less-than-50% class and being a loser in the next election. Trump - Winner, Agent47 - Loser for next 6 years + simply doesn't make much of a case for one wanting to show his superior intellect to the President.
 

GoodTidings

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I’m helping you think.
It would help if you actually knew how to think. So far, your posts are nothing but meaningless, pointless drivel.


Any economy is in a state of flux so it helps to look at trends before proclaiming the unstable “genius” as genius. There are no employment figures worth boasting of as President Obama did it well before.
You are really out of touch. The GDP numbers for the last three years are far and away better than Obama had for eight years. Obama's response to a sluggish economy was to accept it as the new normal.

Think of it as a copilot taking over from a pilot mid flight. Before you brag about the current speed and altitude, remember who got you there in the first place.
That analogy doesn't work because presidents don't pilot together. Trump is undoing Obama's policies. He is rolling back Obama's policies. He has undone just about everything Obama put in place. So your analogy doesn't comport with what is actually happening. Obama never got a GDP above 2% Obama didn't get us anywhere.
 

church mouse guy

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You are ignorant. Your unstable and unhinged “genius” has doubled Obama arms sales to Saudis even as they rain terror in Yemen. Trump is a terrorist. Do you know how many kids have been killed in Yemen? Yet back home his hypocritical fanatics are busy rolling back Roe vs Wade.

There is an God for Americans and another for others in the perverted minds of many ‘Christians’ here

Over 7,500 children killed or wounded in Yemen since 2013, U.N. report says

So you are just another pro-choice lefty who wants infanticide.
 

Agent47

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You are really out of touch. The GDP numbers for the last three years are far and away better than Obama had for eight years. Obama's response to a sluggish economy was to accept it as the new normal.

Empty cliches. I gave you data. Provide yours. I bet you can’t even define GDP without Google
 

Agent47

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That analogy doesn't work because presidents don't pilot together. Trump is undoing Obama's policies. He is rolling back Obama's policies. He has undone just about everything Obama put in place. So your analogy doesn't comport with what is actually happening. Obama never got a GDP above 2% Obama didn't get us anywhere.
The economy is the jet. Pilot is President Obama, copilot or second pilot is unstable “genius”.

Can you read a simple graph?
 

Agent47

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They are not empty at all, as evidenced by your empty non-response and inability to actually mount an intelligent refutation..

More empty talking points. I used statistics and you still are full of glib and nothing else
 
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church mouse guy

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Trump has more than doubled arms sales to a country that is busy butchering Yemenis and that chopped up Khashoggi

Sleep over that,maybe you will catch an epiphany

Who cares? Iran should not have an atomic bomb and the Saudis agree. As for Khashoggi, that is the way Muhammad did things. Iran has been attacking us since Carter. Iranians are sick of Muslim terrorists rule. Have you been there lately?
 

Agent47

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Who cares? Iran should not have an atomic bomb and the Saudis agree. As for Khashoggi, that is the way Muhammad did things. Iran has been attacking us since Carter. Iranians are sick of Muslim terrorists rule. Have you been there lately?

Why not? Your gods told you?
 

GoodTidings

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The economy is the jet. Pilot is President Obama, copilot or second pilot is unstable “genius”.

Can you read a simple graph?
It's bad analogy that doesn't apply to how a country is run. But you Liberals are a little slow on the uptake, so I can see why you can't get it.
 
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