US Soldier Abuses

[DrJamesAch]

Since someone decided to vilify Jews over snide comments made about PANCAKES in a report that was made by TERRORISTS, are the US soldiers really innocent?http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=87639&page=2

Video of US Soldiers harassing 2 children, asking if they are gay and commit sex acts together

Video US Soldiers harassing and degrading children

US Soldiers racist video

US Soldiers Rape woman in Khandahar

US Soldiers arrest for gang raping Japanese woman

US Soldiers raping woman and children

Video US Soldiers Rape woman in Iraq

Wiki Leaks report of US Soldiers Torturing and Murdering 66, 000 Iraqis.

US Soldiers have raped woman and children, degraded children and it isn't just a few isolated incidents. IT'S EPIDEMIC. So epidemic that the POTUS had to go on national television to denounce it.

So don't act like US Soldiers are so high and mighty when there's about 1000 more videos like this that could have been posted. Men commit evil acts because they are SINNERS, not because they are JEWISH.

 

[Revmitchell]

garbage pure garbage

 

[DrJamesAch]

garbage pure garbage

That's what I think about all the threads certain folks keep posting about Jews.

 

[Revmitchell]

That's what I think about all the threads certain folks keep posting about Jews.

The problem is not everyone is doing that. Most everyone on this board is American. You are working to tick off everyone posting this false garbage. Maybe you should get your emotions in check. There is most certainly an anti semite or two on the board. You need to deal with them personally. And quite frankly I am offended by them as you are.

 

[kyredneck]

garbage pure garbage

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That's your buddy there Rev, he has the 'Holy DNA' you know.

 

[Revmitchell]

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That's your buddy there Rev, he has the 'Holy DNA' you know.

You need to drop your anit semite jew hating attitude. And just plain grow up.

 

[kyredneck]

You need to drop your anit semite jew hating attitude. And just plain grow up.

Grow up yourself and cease with the endless cheap knee jerk smears. I challenge you or Ack or anyone else to produce even one hateful post I've ever made on this board.

 

[Fred's Wife]

Here's one:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2013872&postcount=13

 

[kyredneck]

That's not hate, it's a statement of what I believe to be fact, and I'd venture to say you're one of those that would say, 'That's OK, they're God's chosen people'.

 

[DrJamesAch]

That's not hate, it's a statement of what I believe to be fact, and I'd venture to say you're one of those that would say, 'That's OK, they're God's chosen people'.

Just because you believe in your own statements don't mean they are not hateful. Every racist out there believes that what they say is the truth. The Nazi party believed that their treatment of Jews was based on fact. The whites in the south believed that it was OK to make blacks sit at the back of the bus, and prevent them from eating, swimming, schooling anywhere there were whites, and yet according to you, believing that such practices are based on what they believe to be a factual and logical basis deems it not racist? That is the most ridiculous logic I've ever heard.

And all through the Bible and INCLUDING the New Testament Israel has been called God's elect, God's chosen people. You are just too stupid to see the difference between the SPIRITUAL blessings that the Gentiles inherited from Abraham in which the Gentiles were graft in, from the PHYSICAL and LAND promises that came through Ephraim which will be fulfilled in the millennial kingdom. There's not one place in the entire Bible that says that the Gentiles are entitled to the land of Israel or that they inherit the physical promises that are still pending for Israel.

If you don't believe their God's chosen people, then fine, be ignorant, but the fact that you and your buddies think that showing videos and articles about "Jewish atrocities" somehow PROVES that Israel is not God's chosen people is totally non sequitur to that issue, and only shows just how bigoted you are. I asked you point blank on 5 separate occasions whether or not you thought Jesus was white or not and you gave excuses for not answering it. It takes a small minded coward to sit behind a keyboard and spit venom at a particular race just to try and prove that white Christians are somehow superior to Jews.

 

[kyredneck]

Just because you believe in your own statements don't mean they are not hateful.....

So you can't produce even one hateful post I've made.

 

[kyredneck]

This is hate:

.... It takes a small minded coward to sit behind a keyboard and spit venom at a particular race just to try and prove that white Christians are somehow superior to Jews.

Never have I stooped to such vitriol.

 

[kyredneck]

Question for you Ack, is this hate?:

2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the concision:
3 for we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God, and glory in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh: Phil 3

It's definitely not politically correct by today's standards, and I've never even come close to using such derogatory terms such as what Paul used.

 

[Fred's Wife]

That's not hate, it's a statement of what I believe to be fact, and I'd venture to say you're one of those that would say, 'That's OK, they're God's chosen people'.

Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Genesis 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

 

[kyredneck]

Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Genesis 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

Just as Abraham received the blessing BEFORE circumcision:

8 Blessed is the man to whom, the Lord will not reckon sin.
9 Is this blessing then pronounced upon the circumcision, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say, To Abraham his faith was reckoned for righteousness.
10 How then was it reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision: Ro 4

...the promise of Gen 12 was also given BEFORE circumcision:

6 But it is not as though the word of God hath come to nought. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel:
7 neither, because they are Abraham`s seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed. Ro 9

28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye are Christ`s, then are ye Abraham`s seed, heirs according to promise. Gal 3

 

[Fred's Wife]

Just as Abraham received the blessing BEFORE circumcision:

8 Blessed is the man to whom, the Lord will not reckon sin.
9 Is this blessing then pronounced upon the circumcision, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say, To Abraham his faith was reckoned for righteousness.
10 How then was it reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision: Ro 4

...the promise of Gen 12 was also given BEFORE circumcision:

6 But it is not as though the word of God hath come to nought. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel:
7 neither, because they are Abraham`s seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed. Ro 9

28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye are Christ`s, then are ye Abraham`s seed, heirs according to promise. Gal 3

What you quoted (the "usual" verses that the Calvinists quote) have NADA to do with, as DrJamesAch stated, "the PHYSICAL and LAND promises that came through Ephraim which will be fulfilled in the millennial kingdom". The "land" promises do not belong to the Church and the Church is not, nor ever has been, nor ever will be "spiritual" or "true" Israel.

 

[pinoybaptist]

What you quoted (the "usual" verses that the Calvinists quote) have NADA to do with, as DrJamesAch stated, "the PHYSICAL and LAND promises that came through Ephraim which will be fulfilled in the millennial kingdom". The "land" promises do not belong to the Church and the Church is not, nor ever has been, nor ever will be "spiritual" or "true" Israel.

1. no millenial kingdom will happen.
the millenial kingdom is the CURRENT rule of Christ in the hearts of those who love Him......see Hebrews 8:10

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

2. and the church may not be the spiritual or true israel, but the Israel of God is made up of the redeemed of both Gentiles and Jews.

Galatians 6:15-16
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

 

[saturneptune]

garbage pure garbage

Rev,
I am responding to your post, because this person sickens every fiber of my being, from the surface to the depths of my soul that is saved by Jesus Christ. I have lived the military experience as you have. I have lived as a child growing up in Mississippi how human beings can be treated because of the color of their skin. These are the two events in my life, other than salvation, that mold me as a person.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died over the past 200+ years to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, freedom and liberty. The opening post is a slap in the face to every American, especially those who have defended this nation. Neither you nor I have said anything about Israel, except that maybe American tax dollars have no business holding up their city-state. We need plenty of new bridges and roads.

As many poster have already gone down a theological road to respond to this outrageous thread, it has nothing to do with theology. It has to do with pride in this nation, equal treatment of human beings, and a love of freedom and liberty.

Stated over and over, these threads are not intended to debate, but demean. This has nothing to do with Israel as a covenant or kingdom in God's purposes in end times, it has to do with baiting others into infractions.

I do not know who made the comments about the Israeli soldiers, but none of it has a thing to do with this board. Nothing infuriates me as much as belittling the sacrifice American blood.

 

[kyredneck]

1. no millenial kingdom will happen.
the millenial kingdom is the CURRENT rule of Christ in the hearts of those who love Him......see Hebrews 8:10

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

2. and the church may not be the spiritual or true israel, but the Israel of God is made up of the redeemed of both Gentiles and Jews.

Galatians 6:15-16
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

:thumbs::thumbs:

 

[DrJamesAch]

1. no millenial kingdom will happen.
the millenial kingdom is the CURRENT rule of Christ in the hearts of those who love Him......see Hebrews 8:10

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

2. and the church may not be the spiritual or true israel, but the Israel of God is made up of the redeemed of both Gentiles and Jews.

Galatians 6:15-16
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Revelation 20:1-4 is not about any "spiritual" reigning of Christ on our hearts. If that were the case, then Christ would only be reigning in our hearts for 1000 years, then what?

All of you no millennial folks don't see the different between the spiritual inheritances that came through JUDAH when Christ came. THAT is the blessing that the Gentiles inherited. That LAND and PHYSICAL promises came through EPHRAIM in Genesis 48-49. THAT is the primary difference between the Kingdom of God, and the Kingdom of Heaven. All of the verses in Romans 4, Galations 3-5 are about the fulfillment of Abrahams seed being blessed which was fulfilled in Christ. That has NOTHING TO DO with the millennial kingdom of future Israel.

And you can't take a benediction on Galations 6 and claim that shows Israel and the church are the same. Notice there are 2 different groups addressed in that benediction:

"And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God." Galations 6:16

"Them (1 group) AND the Israel of God (separate group from "them")

The covenant in Hebrews 8:10 is to the HOUSE of ISRAEL, not the CHURCH. Why doesn't anybody ever notice that all the verses in Hebrews are writing TO JEWS, in a book called HEBREWS. Notice Hebrews 8:9:

"Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord" Them who? whose fathers? ISRAEL. This covenant has nothing to do with the church but is Paul explaining this to his "kinsmen according to the flesh" Rom 9:3. Yes Hebrews is useful and a phenomenal explanation of the work of Christ, but the book is ABOUT and DIRECTED To HEBREWS.

Folks that don't get the 2 different themes here: the spiritual blessings in Abraham which was fulfilled in Christ and the Gentiles became partakers thereof, and the promise of birthright that is not counted after the genealogy through Judah"

"Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel, (for he was the firstborn; but forasmuch as he defiled his father's bed, his birthright was given unto the sons of Joseph the son of Israel: and the genealogy is not to be reckoned after the birthright.For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's: " 1 Chronicles 5:1-2

Failure to understand this is what produces preterists, amillennialists, "kingdom now" theology.