Vaccine, DNA and Miscarrages

[JonC]

From the Mayo clinic:

Do COVID-19 vaccines alter your DNA or cause infertility or miscarriage?

No, no and no. COVID-19 vaccines prompt an immune response so that your body remembers how to fight the virus in the future. Even vaccines that use genetically engineered mRNA (called mRNA vaccines) never enter the nucleus of your cells, where your DNA is located. Find out more about how different types of COVID-19 vaccines work.

In addition, there is currently no evidence that any COVID-19 vaccines cause fertility problems. COVID-19 vaccines have not been linked to infertility or miscarriage. While scientists don't have all of the answers about COVID-19, they’re working hard to debunk these COVID-19 myths and more.


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[Reynolds]

You work for Pfizer or Moderna? Has to be one of them.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

The same source, the Mayo Clinic also says that murdering babies is a normal medical decision.

Why should we be listening to them on medical matters, especially concerning fertility and child rearing/making?

If an obese person next door was giving me diet advice I don't believe I'd follow it.

 

[JonC]

You work for Pfizer or Moderna? Has to be one of them.

Yea...you guys trust welovetrump.com as an expert source but think the Mayo Clinic is full of quacks

 

[Reynolds]

Yea...you guys trust welovetrump.com as an expert source but think the Mayo Clinic is full of quacks

Full of people paid off by grant money.

 

[JonC]

Full of people paid off by grant money.

Yea.....trust welovetrump.com with your health but distrust John Hopkins School of Medicine, the CDC, AMA, FDA, Mayo Clinic, Vanderbilt Hospital, St. Jude's, Texas Medical Center, Stanford University, Massachusetts General, Harvard University, Max Planck Society, the Francis Crick Institute, University of Toronto, Oxford University, Duke University....

Like I said, everybody gets to pick who they will believe.

Good luck with that.

 

[Reynolds]

Yea.....trust welovetrump.com with your health but distrust John Hopkins School of Medicine, the CDC, AMA, FDA, Mayo Clinic, Vanderbilt Hospital, St. Jude's, Texas Medical Center, Stanford University, Massachusetts General, Harvard University, Max Planck Society, the Francis Crick Institute, University of Toronto, Oxford University, Duke University....

Like I said, everybody gets to pick who they will believe.

Good luck with that.

I trust those not in the money loop.

 

[JonC]

Another thing to consider -

Tell the mothers of the thousands of babies saved through in vivo surgery, or the hundreds of thousands children born premature but alive today, or breast cancer survivors, or heart transplant recipients, or anybody with a pacemaker, or a heart valve replacement....just to name a few million lives saved by the medical research you so distrust that they would have done better to discount those experts and rely on your "experts".

If they listened to you, if you were the determining influencer, how much blood would be on your hands? How many would you have killed by telling them to ignore those experts?

The fact that millions of lives have been saved through these organizations but would have died following your advice speaks volumes.

So go ahead. Ignore the experts and believe welovetrump.com and rumble. But stop acting amazed that most Americans trust sources that have been proven trustworthy.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Yea.....trust welovetrump.com

You're responding to someone (Reynolds) who has never quoted that site.

The sources used rejecting the virus are welovetrump.com...

You're responding to someone (me) who has never quoted that site. The rest of that post (not repeated here) also entirely misrepresented my position.

The internet is funny. I could spend all day writing and revising a couple of virology procedures, designing and building a virus concentrator, or a whole day training someone on viral analysis, only to come home and have some stranger I never met claim that all of my understanding of a virus comes from conspiracy theory web sites.

No, Jon. Debate the merits of the argument. Don't resort to ad hominem.

 

[Reynolds]

Another thing to consider -

Tell the mothers of the thousands of babies saved through in vivo surgery, or the hundreds of thousands children born premature but alive today, or breast cancer survivors, or heart transplant recipients, or anybody with a pacemaker, or a heart valve replacement....just to name a few million lives saved by the medical research you so distrust that they would have done better to discount those experts and rely on your "experts".

If they listened to you, if you were the determining influencer, how much blood would be on your hands? How many would you have killed by telling them to ignore those experts?

The fact that millions of lives have been saved through these organizations but would have died following your advice speaks volumes.

So go ahead. Ignore the experts and believe welovetrump.com and rumble. But stop acting amazed that most Americans trust sources that have been proven trustworthy.

I didn't sign up for the experimental group for any of that stuff. The vaccine is experimental. FDA approval was a sham. Approval process should take app 10 years. You can't get long term data in 1.5 years.

 

[JonC]

You're responding to someone (Reynolds) who has never quoted that site.


You're responding to someone (me) who has never quoted that site. The rest of that post (not repeated here) also entirely misrepresented my position.

The internet is funny. I could spend all day writing and revising a couple of virology procedures, designing and building a virus concentrator, or a whole day training someone on viral analysis, only to come home and have some stranger I never met claim that all of my understanding of a virus comes from conspiracy theory web sites.

No, Jon. Debate the merits of the argument. Don't resort to ad hominem.

I am responding to people who have agreed with information other people have posted from that site. If you guys changed your minds that is fine, but let's not play make-believe.

 

[JonC]

I didn't sign up for the experimental group for any of that stuff. The vaccine is experimental. FDA approval was a sham. Approval process should take app 10 years. You can't get long term data in 1.5 years.

No. It is not experimental and no there is no reason for the vaccine to have taken 10 years. This is misinformation. Approval requires a 2 month trial .

These vaccines were fast-tracked, but the parts that were fast-tracked were the paperwork; so the administrative approvals, the time to get the funding — those were all fast-tracked. Because these vaccines have such great interest, the time it took to enroll patients was very, very fast. The follow up was as thorough as it is for any vaccine.

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[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yea...you guys trust welovetrump.com as an expert source but think the Mayo Clinic is full of quacks

I sincerely hope that you are not referring to me

 

[JonC]

I sincerely hope that you are not referring to me

No. I would never connect you to a I love Trump anything. We cool on that.

I was speaking of those who flocked to the evidence presented by the website.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I didn't sign up for the experimental group for any of that stuff. The vaccine is experimental. FDA approval was a sham. Approval process should take app 10 years. You can't get long term data in 1.5 years.

Yes… all my wife’s cancer drugs were developed long term (with exhaustive testing and clinical trials) and in Israel. They are not experimental.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No. I would never connect you to a I love Trump anything. We cool on that.

I was speaking of those who flocked to the evidence presented by the website.

Thank God… thought for a minute there… never mind, we are good.

 

[JonC]

The same source, the Mayo Clinic also says that murdering babies is a normal medical decision.

Why should we be listening to them on medical matters, especially concerning fertility and child rearing/making?

If an obese person next door was giving me diet advice I don't believe I'd follow it.

What is the moral difference between aborting a child and killing a child by denying life saving medical treatment?

The reason I ask is these institutions you suggest cannot be trusted are the same institutions that saved hundreds of thousands of children through their development of prenatal treatments, in vivo measures, and methods of saving babies born premature.

If people took your view regarding these agencies and organizations then thousands of babies that have lived would have died.

Had they made decisions based on your advice regarding these organizations then you would have effectively killed more babies than any single abortionist.

God is a God of means. These organizations do not perform miracles - God performs miracles through them.

 

[Reynolds]

No. It is not experimental and no there is no reason for the vaccine to have taken 10 years. This is misinformation. Approval requires a 2 month trial .

These vaccines were fast-tracked, but the parts that were fast-tracked were the paperwork; so the administrative approvals, the time to get the funding — those were all fast-tracked. Because these vaccines have such great interest, the time it took to enroll patients was very, very fast. The follow up was as thorough as it is for any vaccine.

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So, vaccine process has always been roughly 10 years but it should only take two months? You really can determine long term risk in two months.
You make less sense every day.

 

[JonC]

So, vaccine process has always been roughly 10 years but it should only take two months? You really can determine long term risk in two months.
You make less sense every day.

The process? No. The time it took to work through the red tape and funding issues? Yes. Actual approval takes 2 months of trial data.

 

[Reynolds]

The process? No. The time it took to work through the red tape and funding issues? Yes. Actual approval takes 2 months of trial data.

So, you are telling me only two months of trial data was submitted on the Chicken Pox vaccine?