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Vaccine Facts -the Debate

Revmitchell

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I don't want to take the opportunity away from others. I also want the pro vax establishment to be completely honest. If the vaccine is indeed causing the virus to mutate and making the virus more dangerous for all, that information must be acknowledged. They must be honest and in the open about antibody-dependent enhancement.
The vaxed do not have the right to become super spreaders and breeders for mutations. The huge viral loads in the vaxed Delta infected people is alarming.

i don’t know the true agenda behind this agenda obsessive push to force others the get vaccinated but I suspect it has to do with getting people used to giving up freedom. I don’t trust it because it’s far too over the top and I don’t believe it’s out of concern for other peoples health.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
i don’t know the true agenda behind this agenda obsessive push to force others the get vaccinated but I suspect it has to do with getting people used to giving up freedom. I don’t trust it because it’s far too over the top and I don’t believe it’s out of concern for other peoples health.
We have been giving up freedoms for a long time now. I'm surprised you are just noticing.
 

Reynolds

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i don’t know the true agenda behind this agenda obsessive push to force others the get vaccinated but I suspect it has to do with getting people used to giving up freedom. I don’t trust it because it’s far too over the top and I don’t believe it’s out of concern for other peoples health.
Getting people conditioned to take The Mark.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Getting people conditioned to take The Mark.
I disagree. I do not believe people will take the Mark without knowing exactly what they are doing.

The mark is not what condemns, but rather it is a sign of the condemned (just as God's seal is not what saves....it is the seal of the saved)

That said, I have seen Christians worry about SON'S, bar codes, chips, etc. that they may accidentally get the Mark and lose their salvation.

I suspect this is because of movies and fictional works rather than Scripture.

God will strengthen His own to stand in the face of adversity.
 

Reynolds

Well-Known Member
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I disagree. I do not believe people will take the Mark without knowing exactly what they are doing.

The mark is not what condemns, but rather it is a sign of the condemned (just as God's seal is not what saves....it is the seal of the saved)

That said, I have seen Christians worry about SON'S, bar codes, chips, etc. that they may accidentally get the Mark and lose their salvation.

I suspect this is because of movies and fictional works rather than Scripture.

God will strengthen His own to stand in the face of adversity.
I did not say it was the mark. I said it is getting people conditioned to take the mark.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
I did not say it was the mark. I said it is getting people conditioned to take the mark.
I understand what you are saying (sorry if it appeared otherwise, but I knew you were not saying the vacvine was the Mark).

I don't know that they will need conditioning.

If they are not saved, and need to pledge themselves to anything but God to buy food, I think they will. They are by nature "of the flesh".
 

graciecat

Member
Have faith that vaccines will work, despite not having all the answers. If this is the chosen way to be dead then so be it. Why stay on a cruel world full of greediness?
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
i don’t know the true agenda behind this agenda obsessive push to force others the get vaccinated but I suspect it has to do with getting people used to giving up freedom. I don’t trust it because it’s far too over the top and I don’t believe it’s out of concern for other peoples health.
The agenda behind the vaccine is to save lives. The agenda behind the pro-vax and anti-vax is to derive power by controlling people and how they think.
 
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