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Vaccine killing Chilldren

Do you agree with child vaccin mandates or pressure?

  • yes

    Votes: 5 33.3%

  • no

    Votes: 12 80.0%
  • Total voters
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dad2

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There is no good reason why young children should be coerced or forced to receive a jab of an experimental treatment as far as I am concerned. Of course there are articles on both sides of the issue. The media is generally in lockstep in promoting the vaccine agenda many people feel. Here is one article showing dangers of child covid vaccines.

3rd child in Vietnam dies after Covid vaccination - VnExpress International

This is where I draw the red line in the sand as to what is wicked or not. This agenda for children is wickedness in my opinion.
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Two Wings

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there shouldn't be any coercion from any station to take an injection ...

but PARTICULARLY not children with a new vax type ... new in that they've never been used in the general population until there is a solid long term track record.

PARTICULARLY for a virus that somehow does not post a threat to children.

Keeping their own spores which were intended to be expelled in their respiration is FAR more damaging to their health.
 
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dad2

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Two Wings said:
there shouldn't be any coercion from any station to take an injection ...

but PARTICULARLY not children with a new vax type ... new in that they've never been used in the general population until there is a solid long term track record.

PARTICULARLY for a virus that somehow does not post a threat to children.

Keeping their own spores which were intended to be expelled in their respiration is FAR more damaging to their health.
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Yet there is plenty of pressure to stay in certain schools or classes, and from teachers and presidents and etc. There is talk of making it mandatory in some places. Already we see professionals, and all sorts of people losing jobs, homes, and etc. The world is marching to the tune of a piper in lockstep, it seems, come hell or highwater.
 
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Two Wings

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1689Dave said:
People are paranoid and blow things way out of proportion.
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Correct. we've seen how fear drives people to believe whatever they're told by media/govt/big business. What is a treatable disease has been inflated to drive public policy and the expansion of government authority ... all with the celebration of those very paranoid people.

dad2 said:
Yet there is plenty of pressure to stay in certain schools or classes ...
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Indeed ... too many of these entities are taking their que from the government and are fearful to fail in promoting the narrative, let alone speak against it with the truth.
 
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Reynolds

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dad2 said:
There is no good reason why young children should be coerced or forced to receive a jab of an experimental treatment as far as I am concerned. Of course there are articles on both sides of the issue. The media is generally in lockstep in promoting the vaccine agenda many people feel. Here is one article showing dangers of child covid vaccines.

3rd child in Vietnam dies after Covid vaccination - VnExpress International

This is where I draw the red line in the sand as to what is wicked or not. This agenda for children is wickedness in my opinion.
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Pro vax crowd is killing kids to calm their fears. Won't take much to get them to take The Mark. Evil!
 
Reynolds

Reynolds

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1689Dave said:
You confuse fear with wisdom. You judge me by your own fears assuming we share the same motives. This is a sin BTW.
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I judge you by your actions. If the whole world bunkered in their house like you, how many would die of starvation? Hypocrisy is what you advocate, not wisdom. You will bunker in your house and eat the food grown, shipped, and sold by those who brave the virus. That is hypocrisy, not wisdom.
 
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1689Dave

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Reynolds said:
I judge you by your actions. If the whole world bunkered in their house like you, how many would die of starvation? Hypocrisy is what you advocate, not wisdom. You will bunker in your house and eat the food grown, shipped, and sold by those who brace the virus. That is hypocrisy, not wisdom.
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But you are lying. I go places with my wife. But prefer the porch when visitors stop by. It's for their good and mine.
 
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Reynolds

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1689Dave said:
But you are lying. I go places with my wife. But prefer the porch when visitors stop by. It's for their good and mine.
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You said you only go out to pick up curbside delivery/pickup.
I don't know what you do. I only know what you say you do.
 
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1689Dave

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Reynolds said:
I judge you by your actions. If the whole world bunkered in their house like you, how many would die of starvation? Hypocrisy is what you advocate, not wisdom. You will bunker in your house and eat the food grown, shipped, and sold by those who brave the virus. That is hypocrisy, not wisdom.
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I'm retired and lived this way long before Covid.
 
atpollard

atpollard

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I support vaccines and oppose mandates, so I voted both "yes" and "no" since the question was not worded in a neutral tone.
(It was actually just shy of "Do you still beat your wife?" biased.)

Do you support the death of the unvaccinated or oppose the protection offered by vaccines?
Should schools drop the requirements for all childhood vaccines and just accept Small Pox and German Measles and Rubella as part of life?

I was just curious if it was only the COVID vaccine or all mandatory vaccines that you morally opposed.


My opinion is that the Government should not REQUIRE anyone to get a vaccine, however schools have the right to admit only children that have been vaccinated into their classrooms. It stems from the idea that your "freedoms" end when they step on the freedoms of someone else. My right to not-vaccinate myself is not a right to infect you. Therefore, the school has a right to admit only vaccinated children for the protection of their peers and teachers. Parents should have a right to refuse the vaccination and either home school or e-school where the child can learn without the risk of gaining or passing an infection.

It is the same logic as keeping sick children home rather than sending them to school.

I CHOSE to get the vaccine as did my wife and our 16 year old daughter (and we all lived, contrary to the rhetoric). This protects us from spreading COVID to my Mother-in-law who is a cancer survivor with a suppressed immune system.
 
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dad2

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atpollard said:
I support vaccines and oppose mandates, so I voted both "yes" and "no" since the question was not worded in a neutral tone.
(It was actually just shy of "Do you still beat your wife?" biased.)

Do you support the death of the unvaccinated or oppose the protection offered by vaccines?
Should schools drop the requirements for all childhood vaccines and just accept Small Pox and German Measles and Rubella as part of life?
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I support trusting God over man. If people involved in mass child sacrifice (like the leaders and medical system) recommend an experiment from which many of them gain greatly, and that has been shown to kill many people, no, I would not want that accepted as gospel and mandatory, If that experimental gook was also associated with research involving murdered unborn people, I also would be wary. If the agenda to push that weird nonsense also involved Gestapo like tactics, severe loss of freedoms, and harsh restrictions on visiting family, gathering for worship, and travel, I would also be aware something was rotten in Denmark. If, above and beyond all that, it was shown that children were not really in danger, yet were being steamrolled into joining the stampede to possible death and injury, I would have no questions left at all.
 
atpollard

atpollard

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dad2 said:
I support trusting God over man. If people involved in mass child sacrifice (like the leaders and medical system) recommend an experiment from which many of them gain greatly, and that has been shown to kill many people
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You like superlatives, don't you?
3 deaths in 3.5 million doses is 1 death per 1.2 million doses ... hardly "many" people killed.

Now for some real data from US Hospitals:
Children as young as 4 years old have died from COVID
one million COVID-19 vaccinations (children 16-17) will
  • prevent about 135,000 cases
  • prevent 1,000 hospitalizations
  • prevent 8 deaths
Fact check: COVID-19 vaccines not linked to deaths in children

Fact Check-No evidence COVID-19 vaccines have a “174 times higher” mortality rate in children than the virus

Just for argument, let us assume that those 3 child deaths in Vietnam were caused by the vaccine and not some other cause.
The 3.5 million vaccines given to children:
  • killed 3 children
  • prevented 28 COVID child deaths
  • prevented 3500 COVID child hospitalizations
  • prevented 472,500 COVID child cases

Now, was the "cost" worth the "benefit"?
It should still not be mandatory, but parents should be able to weigh risk vs reward with real data rather than rumors and conspiracy theories. Every time I donate platelets, there is a risk, but every donation keeps three people alive after cancer treatment so I accept the risk because I believe the reward is worth it. Everyone deserves to weigh the risk and reward and make their own choices for everything ... including vaccines.
 
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