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Vaccine killing Chilldren

Do you agree with child vaccin mandates or pressure?

  • yes

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • no

    Votes: 12 80.0%

  • Total voters
    15
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dad2

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You like superlatives, don't you?
3 deaths in 3.5 million doses is 1 death per 1.2 million doses ... hardly "many" people killed.

Now for some real data from US Hospitals:
Children as young as 4 years old have died from COVID
one million COVID-19 vaccinations (children 16-17) will
  • prevent about 135,000 cases
  • prevent 1,000 hospitalizations
  • prevent 8 deaths
There is not a lot of children dying from covid. The unknown possible effects of a so called vaccine should be avoided. Sorry if you thought some propaganda labelled fact check was worth believing. No. There have been deaths already with vaxxed children I think that is safe to say. No use playing a numbers game with you as to how many so far. As you should know, actual stats are not avail, and truth is suppressed on this.

Just for argument, let us assume that those 3 child deaths in Vietnam were caused by the vaccine and not some other cause.
OK, so that does not mean we should assume thousands 'would have' died from covid if there was no weird so called vaccine!

It should still not be mandatory, but parents should be able to weigh risk vs reward with real data rather than rumors and conspiracy theories.
Parents should avoid an experimental unneeded (covid danger to kids is minimal) that is known to cause all sorts of side effects and death. Period.

Every time I donate platelets, there is a risk, but every donation keeps three people alive after cancer treatment so I accept the risk because I believe the reward is worth it. Everyone deserves to weigh the risk and reward and make their own choices for everything ... including vaccines.
You can donate what you like, hands off the children.
 

1689Dave

Well-Known Member
There is not a lot of children dying from covid. The unknown possible effects of a so called vaccine should be avoided. Sorry if you thought some propaganda labelled fact check was worth believing. No. There have been deaths already with vaxxed children I think that is safe to say. No use playing a numbers game with you as to how many so far. As you should know, actual stats are not avail, and truth is suppressed on this.


OK, so that does not mean we should assume thousands 'would have' died from covid if there was no weird so called vaccine!

Parents should avoid an experimental unneeded (covid danger to kids is minimal) that is known to cause all sorts of side effects and death. Period.

You can donate what you like, hands off the children.
What resources do you have that we can depend on? Is it the same paranoid bunch we try to avoid?
 

atpollard

Well-Known Member
OK, so that does not mean we should assume thousands 'would have' died from covid if there was no weird so called vaccine!
Got it ... ignore all statistics.

Parents should avoid an experimental unneeded (covid danger to kids is minimal) that is known to cause all sorts of side effects and death. Period.
Since we are replacing all objective statistical evidence with subjective anecdotal evidence ...
My wife and I (two parents) chose to have our daughter vaccinated. She had no side effects or death, so the vaccine must be safe.

You can donate what you like, hands off the children.
Neither you nor I get to decide about Vietnamese Children.
Your opinion is irrelevant concerning MY child.
My opinion concerning YOUR child is: "It is none of my business."

I don't think that it is your place to demand that NOBODY should be allowed to vaccinate their children.

PS. there is nothing "EXPERIMENTAL" about it.
 

dad2

Active Member
What resources do you have that we can depend on? Is it the same paranoid bunch we try to avoid?
God. The bible. Prayer. Wisdom. Discernment. We also have absolute proven liars as mainstream news sources, so we can brush off most news as garbage immediately. Then there is the fact that the stats for covid have been a joke, and fudged. Claiming people died of one thing when it was another..etc etc etc. Then we have the whole world almost in harmonious timing dancing to the same agenda for some unknown unseen on the surface reason. Then we have the known deaths and effects of the vaccine. Then we have the possible future consequences. Then we have the drooling despots that popped out of their box to oppress people with glee. Then we....etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
 

1689Dave

Well-Known Member
God. The bible. Prayer. Wisdom. Discernment. We also have absolute proven liars as mainstream news sources, so we can brush off most news as garbage immediately. Then there is the fact that the stats for covid have been a joke, and fudged. Claiming people died of one thing when it was another..etc etc etc. Then we have the whole world almost in harmonious timing dancing to the same agenda for some unknown unseen on the surface reason. Then we have the known deaths and effects of the vaccine. Then we have the possible future consequences. Then we have the drooling despots that popped out of their box to oppress people with glee. Then we....etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
This is your opinion. My opinion is that God gave the science based on Daniel's end-time prophecy through the increase of knowledge. Here's the problem. Whatever is not of faith is sin. So for me to reject the vaccine is a sin even if it isn't. For others to take it is sin if not done in faith.
 

dad2

Active Member
Got it ... ignore all statistics.
When no good and true ones are available, of course. When professionals have come forward to warn the stats are a fraud, of course. When we see the folks pushing the padded fake stats are known supporters of outright Satanic agendas, of course

Since we are replacing all objective statistical evidence with subjective anecdotal evidence ...
My wife and I (two parents) chose to have our daughter vaccinated. She had no side effects or death, so the vaccine must be safe.
Excellent, so let's mandate that no one can ever take the demonic gook shots!!

Neither you nor I get to decide about Vietnamese Children.
Your opinion is irrelevant concerning MY child.
My opinion concerning YOUR child is: "It is none of my business."
All opinions aside people are known to die from the sicko shots, as well as get seriously injured. When we see some people fanatical about shooting the young children anyhow, despite no real apprent need or reason, that tells us what spirit they are coming from. Really.

I don't think that it is your place to demand that NOBODY should be allowed to vaccinate their children.
Frankly Charlotte, I don't give a ,,,,

PS. there is nothing "EXPERIMENTAL" about it.
PS I prefer truth, thank you very much.
 

dad2

Active Member
This is your opinion. My opinion is that God gave the science based on Daniel's end-time prophecy through the increase of knowledge. Here's the problem. Whatever is not of faith is sin. So for me to reject the vaccine is a sin even if it isn't. For others to take it is sin if not done in faith.
Well, you can believe God is excited about teaching us how to murder and dismember and package baby parts etc all you like to advance knowledge. For those of us actually mildly familiar wit the bible, we know that just because it is told to us how depraved and fallen and wicked and Satanic and murderous man will be in the end, does not mean God inspired or commanded us to be like that!
 

1689Dave

Well-Known Member
Well, you can believe God is excited about teaching us how to murder and dismember and package baby parts etc all you like to advance knowledge. For those of us actually mildly familiar wit the bible, we know that just because it is told to us how depraved and fallen and wicked and Satanic and murderous man will be in the end, does not mean God inspired or commanded us to be like that!
So you want me to sin based on what? A conspiracy theory?
 

1689Dave

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You are no judge of truth and lies and what is actually fake news. You simply choose a certain stream of sewage news that you thought was fresh water.
So my faith in God is leading me astray when I doubt the words of the paranoid and delusional?
 

Two Wings

Well-Known Member
So my faith in God is leading me astray when I doubt the words of the paranoid and delusional?

May I offer one point to ponder ...

If the jab is Godly then what faith is enhanced by accepting this?

If the jab is poison and you survive, who is glorified? If the jab is poison and you fall to it?

If there is to pass through themidst of this pestilence and “go on your way” ... who is glorified?

If one steps out to pass through the midst and succumbs to the virus ... who is glorified?

Seems to me the former (Mark 16) is legitimate, but if it glorifies God, the survivors will be the exception rather than the rule of going with what the world says.

Ditto for those who generally claim “pass through its midst” counter to the world’s logic.
 

1689Dave

Well-Known Member
May I offer one point to ponder ...

If the jab is Godly then what faith is enhanced by accepting this?

If the jab is poison and you survive, who is glorified? If the jab is poison and you fall to it?

If there is to pass through themidst of this pestilence and “go on your way” ... who is glorified?

If one steps out to pass through the midst and succumbs to the virus ... who is glorified?

Seems to me the former (Mark 16) is legitimate, but if it glorifies God, the survivors will be the exception rather than the rule of going with what the world says.

Ditto for those who generally claim “pass through its midst” counter to the world’s logic.
Compassion on people, not infecting them with a deadly disease. But the Devil does just the opposite.

“How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.” Acts 10:38 (KJV 1900)

Who do you serve?
 

Two Wings

Well-Known Member
WhoM do you serve?

The question of a lifetime with eternal consequences, right?

But who can rightly answer “God” all of the time?

I simply ask to consider the possibility that “passing though its midst” (Luke 4:30) in the face of a mortal challenge is as/at least as legitimate a leap of faith in obedience as taking a leap of faith with a unknown jab.

Furthermore, consider that a different perspective on this choice isn’t paranoid conspiracy. That’s a pretty high horse mounted.
 

1689Dave

Well-Known Member
The question of a lifetime with eternal consequences, right?

But who can rightly answer “God” all of the time?

I simply ask to consider the possibility that “passing though its midst” (Luke 4:30) in the face of a mortal challenge is as/at least as legitimate a leap of faith in obedience as taking a leap of faith with a unknown jab.

Furthermore, consider that a different perspective on this choice isn’t paranoid conspiracy. That’s a pretty high horse mounted.
Who would Jesus make sick as delusional and a conspiracy theorist?
 

Two Wings

Well-Known Member
Who would Jesus make sick as delusional and a conspiracy theorist?

Is this a trick question?

Good comes from God ... Evil from the devil ... as you previously noted. The age old “bad things happen to ‘good’ people.” God didn’t DO it, but USED it.

You’ll not consider what you’re characterizing isn’t from pride/ego/bolster your own decision about the jab?
 

Reynolds

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This is your opinion. My opinion is that God gave the science based on Daniel's end-time prophecy through the increase of knowledge. Here's the problem. Whatever is not of faith is sin. So for me to reject the vaccine is a sin even if it isn't. For others to take it is sin if not done in faith.
In the context of Daniels prophecy, the abundance of knowledge is not viewed in a favorable light. It is contributing to the events that set up the Beast.
 

Two Wings

Well-Known Member
In the context of Daniels prophecy, the abundance of knowledge is not viewed in a favorable light. It is contributing to the events that set up the Beast.
Slightly off topic of the cv vaxes/kids ... but has anyone viewed a star link deployment?

Was flying to Fresno last week late evening as the sun was setting ... outta no where those things showed-up! It was eeery.

Can’t help but wonder if those thousands of satellites are part of what projects the image of the beast for all see simulataneously. Just my conjecture. I’m not real sure why we need 5G on every acre of the planet ... but I guess it’s gonna happen?
 

1689Dave

Well-Known Member
In the context of Daniels prophecy, the abundance of knowledge is not viewed in a favorable light. It is contributing to the events that set up the Beast.
You need to get rid of your dispensationalism before you can understand Daniel.
 
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