Vax Facilitates Omicron Infection

[JonC]

IMO, this is at best, a Laodicean Board. Common terminology would be BINO.

You supported false accusations (that I edited @Aaron 's post) and insults that he levied at me based on that false accusation.

Where does that place you in the Churches of Revelation category?

Christians can disagree. Christians can be wrong.

BUT can a Christian make or support false accusations and at the same time properly be said to uphold truth?

 

[JonC]

What other vax requires 5 month boosters? If any other vax we have required 5 month booster, after it's initial sequence, it would be labeled a failed vax.

The polio vaccine (4 to 6 weeks between initial shot and booster). The hepatitis vaccine (1 to 2 months between initial shot and booster, then 4 months). The shingles vaccine (2 to 6 months between first shot and booster). The diphtheria vaccine (2 months from initial shot to booster). The pneumococcal vaccine (1 month from initial shot to booster, then 1 month between 1st booster and second booster). Rotavirus vaccine (1 month from initial vaccine to booster).

 

[KenH]

Question

Let's say I work for a hospital and it says I must be vaccinated. I am 35 years old, just had an extensive medical checkup and have been found perfectly healthy, get the vaccine, then get the second vaccine, and fifteen days later have a heart attack.

Should I be able to sue the hospital? Should I be able to sue the maker of the vaccine?

Or died, should my next of kin be able to ________?

Who, gets to determine whether the vaccine was responsible?

I am not a lawyer. I don't know.

 

[Two Wings]

The anti-covid-vaxers have been proven wrong in the rhelm of science. Now the fight goes to the courts and laws as they seek to win via politics what was lost in the medical arena .

you keep saying this but it isn't true, JonC. The reason it's in the courts is because the science was woefully incomplete. Faucci saying we have to wait to see if we need a 4th cv jab. Barely a year after they were released. Why is that?

Because the science used was less than conclusive in the R/D of this injection.

Then there was the "shot of hope" campaign to sway public opinion ... then the bribes ... then the coercion ... now we're in the courts to refute the latter because the science used was faulty.

you're not doing very well at moving-on, by the way.

 

[Two Wings]

The polio vaccine (4 to 6 weeks between initial shot and booster). The hepatitis vaccine (1 to 2 months between initial shot and booster, then 4 months). The shingles vaccine (2 to 6 months between first shot and booster). The diphtheria vaccine (2 months from initial shot to booster). The pneumococcal vaccine (1 month from initial shot to booster, then 1 month between 1st booster and second booster). Rotavirus vaccine (1 month from initial vaccine to booster).

and every one of those is known before the rollout of the vaccines. None of them were added after the fact.
Hepatitus acutally had 3 doses to be (i forget the term, but it's dependent upon where you're going) ... A, B, & C. took 12 months to be "fully Hep'd" ... and this was known when the Hep vaxes were released, too.

 

[Aaron]

I offered no digs. I made no accusations.

Yes, you did. And you do all the time.

The anti-vax label is a lie and perjorative. You know it is, yet you persist in employing it every chance you get. Your leftist bias permeates every post you make, and the subtext of contempt is loud and clear for conservatives and those who are arguing for a true narrative concerning covid and the vax. We are not the ones who need to go away.

You need to stop your harassment.

 

[kyredneck]

Yes, you did.

...eh, JonC's not the only moderator that can edit....

 

[Aaron]

...eh, JonC's not the only moderator that can edit....

I meant 'yes you did dig and insult.' Even if he wasn't the one who did the actual edit, it was no doubt done at his request.

And he's known to make inappropriate edits when his panties are in a twist.

 

[JonC]

you keep saying this but it isn't true, JonC. The reason it's in the courts is because the science was woefully incomplete. Faucci saying we have to wait to see if we need a 4th cv jab. Barely a year after they were released. Why is that?

Because the science used was less than conclusive in the R/D of this injection.

Then there was the "shot of hope" campaign to sway public opinion ... then the bribes ... then the coercion ... now we're in the courts to refute the latter because the science used was faulty.

you're not doing very well at moving-on, by the way.

It has been proven true. The anti-covid-vax agenda was proven a lie insofar as the virus, vaccine, and science goes. Now all they have is politics, and here they have some legitimate concerns.

Unfortunately their answer to these legitimate concerns is to strip us of rights that, if they are successful, may very well bite Christian businesses in the future.

Anti-covid-vaxers would do better to join reality, admit their error, and counter government overreach via a means that does not involve removing historically guaranteed rights.

 

[JonC]

and every one of those is known before the rollout of the vaccines. None of them were added after the fact.
Hepatitus acutally had 3 doses to be (i forget the term, but it's dependent upon where you're going) ... A, B, & C. took 12 months to be "fully Hep'd" ... and this was known when the Hep vaxes were released, too.

Many of those (all?) require ongoing boosters.

 

[JonC]

Yes, you did. And you do all the time.

The anti-vax label is a lie and perjorative. You know it is, yet you persist in employing it every chance you get. Your leftist bias permeates every post you make, and the subtext of contempt is loud and clear for conservatives and those who are arguing for a true narrative concerning covid and the vax. We are not the ones who need to go away.

You need to stop your harassment.

Harassment? Are you not the one who falsely accused me of editing a post???

Your false accusations discredit anything you would have to say. You, @xlsdraw and @Wingman68 are in the same boat. You all are discredited by making or supporting false accusations.

Boys who cry wolf are rightfully ignored even when the wolf arrives. It goes to character. The rest of us can handle the wolves.

 

[JonC]

...eh, JonC's not the only moderator that can edit....

And I never edit (or moderate) posts in which I am involved.

I get tired of @Aaron , @xlsdraw , and @Wingman68 because they constantly try to drag my position as moderator into member discussions. I'm constantly accused of editing posts where I'm involved (I don't), even banning members (I can't, that's an Administrator task).

I believe they just attack on a personal level because they cannot argue their position.

There are plenty of arguments that could be had. @Two Wings offers legitimate arguments to oppose my posts. But some just have temper tantrums.

 

[Reynolds]

The polio vaccine (4 to 6 weeks between initial shot and booster). The hepatitis vaccine (1 to 2 months between initial shot and booster, then 4 months). The shingles vaccine (2 to 6 months between first shot and booster). The diphtheria vaccine (2 months from initial shot to booster). The pneumococcal vaccine (1 month from initial shot to booster, then 1 month between 1st booster and second booster). Rotavirus vaccine (1 month from initial vaccine to booster).

I said "after initial series.".
Covid vaccine is initial series of two shots and then boost every 5 months. The Covid booster is not part of the initial series. You are dishonestly trying to portray that the booster is As usual, you demonstrate your willingness to misinform.

 

[Reynolds]

And I never edit (or moderate) posts in which I am involved.

I get tired of @Aaron , @xlsdraw , and @Wingman68 because they constantly try to drag my position as moderator into member discussions. I'm constantly accused of editing posts where I'm involved (I don't), even banning members (I can't, that's an Administrator task).

I believe they just attack on a personal level because they cannot argue their position.

There are plenty of arguments that could be had. @Two Wings offers legitimate arguments to oppose my posts. But some just have temper tantrums.

We all get annoyed at you because you are allowed to grossly misrepresent what people say and suffer no consequences for your actions.

 

[JonC]

We all get annoyed at you because you are allowed to grossly misrepresent what people say and suffer no consequences for your actions.

Yet I have not misrepresented what people said. I made the statement of my view of the vaccination- covid topic.

 

[Two Wings]

I am not perfect in this. I recognize this is a topic which is the epitome of line drawing. not much in the way of 3rd party here. Either wearing the Orange/White ... or the Maroon. Or Green/Gold vv Black/White .... Blue/Silver vv Blue/White

I recognize there have been some hard hitting implications. I've engaged because of this from the side of being able to earn a living in the chosen/pursued/long-served profession ... and having done so during the worst of the pandemic (without a jab) just as me and my colleagues did in the weeks following 9/11. It's what we do.

but now there's this presumption that everyone needs to accept into their body this substance which has a significant risk to it. there's no free lunch here and the lacking liability to anyone but the individual jabbed is a gross non-starter. If it's so safe, providing for that safety in a bond should be easy.

We are each other's grace training aids and I suppose if this SCOTUS decision doesn't follow the Constitution, like the mandate which has been challenged fails to follow the Constitution, I'll get to display more grace ... I'll have a whole lotta grace training aids.

 

[xlsdraw]

We all get annoyed at you because you are allowed to grossly misrepresent what people say and suffer no consequences for your actions.

Bingo

 

[xlsdraw]

Bingo

Your use of the prayer symbol is pure hypocrisy. I don't need prayers from someone like you.

 

[JonC]

Bingo

No. Ypu do not like my opinion, that's all. I have not restated what any of you guys have said. I posted that it is time to move on and let people live or die with their decisions. That's it. No insults. No false accusations. No edits. Just my opinion about what we, as a nation, need to do.

And I stand by my opinion just as strong as you stand by your false accusations against me. The difference is my opinions are not contrary to our faith.

I believe all the information we need is out there. Over 60% of the world's population has been vaccinated. We have data. Now people should just leave people alone and let them decide, if they have not already.

 

[JonC]

Your use of the prayer symbol is pure hypocrisy. I don't need prayers from someone like you.

No. You have dug in on false accusations. You pretend I have edited posts on this thread. You pretend I have misstatements what others have posted. I believe in praying for a brother when they backside.

You mention Laodicea. But you stand firm on a false accusation in this very thread, support @Aaron in his false accusations (encouraging sin).

How do you measure up to Laodicea?

If you profess Christ with your lips but deny Christ with their actions what are those who pass by this forum to think? What are the fruits of the Spirit? False accusation? Insults?

You are guilty, brother, of behavior unbecoming your professed faith.

That is why I have prayed for you (and I have prayed for you).