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Victor Davis Hanson - What Is the Violence in American Cities All About?

kyredneck

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What Is the Violence in American Cities All About?

"...What, then, is going on?

As with most cultural revolutions that wish to start things over at "year zero," the violence is aimed at America's past in order to change its present and future.

The targets are not just the old majority culture but also classical statues and buildings, hallowed institutions, religious icons, the renowned names of streets and plazas, and almost every representation of tradition and authority.

For the majority of Americans who do not buy into the revolution, it all seems so surreal -- and hypocritical.

Only a despised, dynamic American economy allows millions to divorce from it for a summer of protest.

A ridiculed U.S. Constitution ensures that looters and arsonists have due process.

The Bill of Rights guarantees peaceful assembly and electrically amplified profanity rarely protected elsewhere.

Affirmative action; federally ensured and subsidized college grants and loans; and cheap smartphones, headphones and laptops all give youth choices unimagined in the past.

No matter -- cultural revolutions are incoherent and nihilist.

Those who signed up for the Jacobin Reign of Terror wanted violence, not a constitutional republic to replace the French monarchy.

The Bolsheviks were less interested in substituting an elected prime minister for the Russian czar than in grabbling power and murdering millions of their enemies.


Mao Zedong did not just hate the warlords, landlords, Mandarins and Nationalists. He wished to reinvent 1 billion Chinese in his own narcissistic image by first killing millions.

There is, of course, reason to oversee the police more effectively.

Universities are partly culpable for a collective $1.4 trillion in student loan debt.

Globalization eroded the middle class. Inner-city America is far too violent -- and far too neglected.

But these are not the apparent concerns of those who carry off shoes and phones in U-Hauls, kick the unconscious on the pavement, destroy art and sculpture, or seek to torch public buildings with public servants inside.

The point of the mob is to wipe out what it cannot create.

It topples what it can neither match nor even comprehend.

It would erode the very system that ensures it singular freedom, leisure and historic affluence.

The brand of the anarchist is not logic but envy-driven power: to take it, to keep it, and to use it against purported enemies -- which would otherwise be impossible in times of calm or through the ballot box."
 

Deacon

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I live in a peaceful suburban setting quite distance from the agitation of the cities.

Here are some traits I see that characterize many of today’s urban youth... but these traits are making their way into the burbs:

Irrational, ill-educated, indoctrinated, manipulated, selfish, entitled, unprepared, impatient, everyone gets a trophy/no losers, narcissistic, embedded with feelings of victimization and powerlessness

I could go on.

Rob
 

Scott Downey

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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams


“I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such: because I think a General Government necessary for us, and there is no Form of Government but what may be a Blessing to the People if well-administred; and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administred for a Course of Years and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other.”


― Benjamin Franklin


“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

― Alexander Fraser Tytler


We may be on the edge of that today seeing how immoral and corrupted the people generally are.
 

church mouse guy

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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams


“I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such: because I think a General Government necessary for us, and there is no Form of Government but what may be a Blessing to the People if well-administred; and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administred for a Course of Years and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other.”


― Benjamin Franklin


“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

― Alexander Fraser Tytler


We may be on the edge of that today seeing how immoral and corrupted the people generally are.

That second quote is bogus. There have been discussions about it before. John MacArthur used it and I emailed for a source, which they said that it was confidential. It was made famous by Reagan but he got it from a newspaper clipping that someone used in a lecture about 80 years ago perhaps.
 

Scott Downey

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That second quote is bogus. There have been discussions about it before. John MacArthur used it and I emailed for a source, which they said that it was confidential. It was made famous by Reagan but he got it from a newspaper clipping that someone used in a lecture about 80 years ago perhaps.
Are you sure, because it came from the notes of James Madison during the constitutional convention, with Benjamin Franklin's final speech supposedly...

Here is all that was said back then. And that quote is in that speech.
Constitutional Convention – Benjamin Franklin Historical Society
https://www.usconstitution.net/franklin.html
Benjamin Franklin . Final Speech | PBS

Maybe you meant the first quote, not the second quote??
 
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Scott Downey

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However the first quote is right here in the National Archives of the United States.
From John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798
Founders Online: From John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798

To the Officers of the <, Start deletion,third, End,> first Brigade of the third Division of the Militia of Massachusetts
Quincy October 11. 1798

Gentlemen

I have received from Major General Hull and Brigadier General Walker your unanimous Address from Lexington, animated with a martial Spirit and expressed with a military Dignity, becoming your Characters and the <, Start deletion,Place, End,> memorable Plains, in which it was adopted.

While our Country remains untainted with the Principles and manners, which are now producing desolation in so many Parts of the World: while she continues Sincere and incapable of insidious and impious Policy: We shall have the Strongest Reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned Us by Providence. But should the People of America, once become capable of that deep <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations, which assumes the Language of Justice and moderation while it is practicing Iniquity and Extravagance; and displays in the most captivating manner the charming Pictures of Candour frankness & sincerity while it is rioting in rapine and Insolence: this Country will be the most miserable Habitation in the World. Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition <, Start deletion,and, End,> Revenge or Galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other

An Address so unanimous and firm from the officers commanding two thousand Eight hundred Men, consisting of such substantial Citizens as are able and willing at their own Expence, compleatly to arm, And cloath themselves in handsome Uniforms does honor to that Division of the Militia which has done so much honor to their Country. Oaths, in this Country, are as yet universally considered as Sacred Obligations. That which you have taken and so solemnly repeated on that venerable Spot is an ample Pledge of your sincerity, and devotion to your Country and its Government.
 

church mouse guy

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Sorry. I do mean the third quotation. I should have given the details. The problem is with Alexander Fraser Tytler. Someone from Oklahoma used it in an event in New York City or something like that and it got into the newspapers and Reagan got the clipping. Reagan was famous for having a lot of newspaper clippings in his billfold. Then John MacArthur used it in a New Year's sermon and it was posted on the Baptist Board. I emailed Grace To You and they replied that his study notes were confidential so they had no confirmation. I think that Reagan popularized the statement but people say that it does not appear in the published works of the obscure Tytler. It sounds a little bit like an Enlightenment putdown of the USA but I don't know what it is.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I live in a peaceful suburban setting quite distance from the agitation of the cities.

Here are some traits I see that characterize many of today’s urban youth... but these traits are making their way into the burbs:

Irrational, ill-educated, indoctrinated, manipulated, selfish, entitled, unprepared, impatient, everyone gets a trophy/no losers, narcissistic, embedded with feelings of victimization and powerlessness

I could go on.

Rob

Rob, have you gone into the inner cities and talked to the people in those communities? The black communities have been underclasses for years and it fears its head in some ugly ways. Education is the means of getting out for most not violence, not looting, not burning down buildings.
 
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