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Brother Curtis,
Watch out...they might roll right out of your head.Originally posted by Bro. Curtis:
Oh please play,
Of course not. But God does, and being God, can exercise His power in what manners He sees fit.
The only "paying" I saw was to enter the park, which has many attractions, one of them being this. There was no admission fee to see it itself. And this is probably for tourists. Obviously those who go to worship in the temple (Mass), don't pay to go in. The $1 admission fee I'm sure goes to pay for the upkeep, because if thousands of people are visiting daily, it has to be upkept somehow. You blow this totally out of proportion.
No, you deemed it pagan idolatry from the get-go, regardless of how we responded. Telling us we are wrong, after we reply, is just a bonus for you.
Please don't try and pull the "you're attacking me" card. You started the post, and ended with "pagan idolatry?" My statement was directed to you since you are the first to have said it. Nothing more, nothing less.
You're right. Because the Bible can only be SO long, its authors tended to focus on those things which God inspired them to write about, and not extrapolate exorbantly. Paper was a precious commodity after all. When one story is done, it's time to move to the next one, because there's a lot of ground to cover. If the rest of Exodus sat talking about one thing (like the bronze serpant), and I'm sure that a wordy writer could have done so, we'd never get to other important events!
And your point? Ever heard of the Ark of the Covenant? Every once in a while, God uses physical, earthly objects to accomplish things! GASP!
Thanks for not reading my response. Oh, and what "command?" How about you drop all the window dressing and display some accuracy?
No, it's obvious that you believe that the Catholic Church is a pagan institution, and with that prior misconception, you twist the meaning of all its activities to suit your agenda, even when our beliefs strictly forbid what you say we practice. To he who has ears, let him hear.
I don't have that option, because we aren't talking about "slight" problems. I can't judge the hearts of the people. Are some of them worshipping incorrectly? Hey, maybe so. But I don't know which ones. You assume they ALL are, and thus, the ENTIRE thing is wrong in your eyes. For you to even SAY that I "refuse to admit there may be a slight problem" is ridiculous, because you make this so big as to say the whole Church is wrong.
Just like God Almighty does not talk to us, or heal us, or answer our prayers through a bronze serpant. If you would drop your warped view of Catholicism that believes we do these things, you might just have a glimpse of understanding.
You're smart enough to see through the misconceptions, but you don't.
Actually, I think you mean Luke 6:17.
You are a bit confused here. Look at the Greek. Literally, it says "flat place [spot]." It is not a stretch of the mind to imagine a plateau on a side of a mountain (or large hill, if you will, which is what mountains usually refer to, not the huge mountains that we think of today) on which Jesus was standing to give the Beatitudes. See? No error.
I don't think anyone claims this. At least not that I know of. I don't claim it. However, what history is given in the Bible should be true and reliable. If that is wrong, why should we trust anything else in it? If it can get the simple things right, why believe anything else it tells us? So I do think it is important that the history it gives is correct. Also, while not a complete biography, it is the only thing that we can use to verify claims. Anything stated outside of Scripture about Jesus (or anything relating to doctrine or people) is merely a claim, unverifiable. That is why I reject apostolic tradition. It is unverifiable. There is nothing objective by which to judge it.
If there are errors and discrepencies in these simple matters, there is no reason to believe it in other matters. Everything becomes completely subjective.
This is contradictory. We do not have any of the original texts of the Bible; they're all gone now. The only reason that you believe that Scripture has remained inerrant over several thousand years is because you have FAITH that this is so. You cannot prove it objectively without having those ORIGINAL documents in your hands, to prove it has never changed. But you believe the Holy Spirit has preserved it through time. Great; I believe it too, and I simply also believe it about Apostolic Tradition.
I disagree. It's theological content is inerrant, because that is why God gave it to us. But if it says that Solomon reigned X number of years, and we later discover that it was X-1 years (I'm just making up an example) through archaeological evidence, that wouldn't make the Bible errant, because the Bible was written not to tell us about Solomon, but about Solomon in relationship to God.
Only problem, we don't have thousands of copies of the Apostolic tradition in the original languages. Study a little textual criticism and you will see we get pretty close to the original.
When Jesus spoke to people and used examples, he spoke to them where they were and used examples that they could understand. Yes, today with the invention of the electro-microscope we know that there are seeds that are smaller than the mustard seed. However, the people that Jesus was speaking to did not know that. He used an example that they could understand. Do you really think that the Creator of everything that exists did not know that there where seeds smaller than a mustard seed? You see the problem is that the people he addressed did not know that there were such seeds. The point Jesus was making was in regard to the lack of faith he observed in the people he was addressing. He was saying that if they only had the very smallest amount of faith they would experience wonders via His power working through them. It is not about the actual size of the seed. You must learn to distinguish the use of figurative speech in the biblical text from historical/grammatical narrative. I suggest that you find the nearest Bible College (preferably one that holds to the doctrine of biblical inerrancy) and sign up for a single Hermeneutics class.