Voting for a President

[saturneptune]

WE are now looking at the possibility of the first Mormon to become President. Some are not so sure if they want to vote for someone who is not claiming to be a mainline Christian. To correct this idea some are saying we are not voting for a pastor, but a President and their religious beliefs should not be what determines who we vote for or against.

Here is my question. If you follow that philosophy then does that mean you would vote for a practicing Atheist or a Muslim?

You are right, I gave a case for voting for a Mormon in this case. Under no circumstances would I vote for a Muslim or athiest based on my first post. If an athiest was running against a Muslim, I would not vote. Based on the present situation, we are just one step from that.

 

[Don]

You are right, I gave a case for voting for a Mormon in this case. Under no circumstances would I vote for a Muslim or athiest based on my first post. If an athiest was running against a Muslim, I would not vote. Based on the present situation, we are just one step from that.

Not sure I agree. What if your only two candidates were an atheist, or a muslim, or a mormon; and someone who professes to be a Christian, but furthers the gay agenda, supports Planned Parenthood, etc.?

If we start going down that road, no one would ever vote....

 

[Don]

So what about the OP question;
Here is my question. If you follow that philosophy then does that mean you would vote for a practicing Atheist or a Muslim?

If you carefully read what I wrote, you'll see that I answered you.

 

[freeatlast]

You are right, I gave a case for voting for a Mormon in this case. Under no circumstances would I vote for a Muslim or athiest based on my first post. If an athiest was running against a Muslim, I would not vote. Based on the present situation, we are just one step from that.

Thank you for responding the the question and I agree with you. Neither would I vote for them.

 

[freeatlast]

Not sure I agree. What if your only two candidates were an atheist, or a muslim, or a mormon; and someone who professes to be a Christian, but furthers the gay agenda, supports Planned Parenthood, etc.?

If we start going down that road, no one would ever vote....

[SIZE=+0]SO! Why would we tale part of voting in a Hitler when the other choice was a Stalin?
This idea of the lessor of two evil is in no way of the Lord. It is one reason we are in this situation we are in. Way too many who claim to be Christians compromising and selling this nation and themselves down the river. No dounbt they live their Christian lives the same way which is why they are willing to comproimise at the polls.
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[freeatlast]

If you carefully read what I wrote, you'll see that I answered you.

Actually you did not but that is fine as I should not expect a straight answer from you.

 

[poncho]

[SIZE=-0]SO! Why would we tale part of voting in a Hitler when the other choice was a Stalin?
This idea of the lessor of two evil is in no way of the Lord. It is one reason we are in this situation we are in. Way too many who claim to be Christians compromising and selling this nation and themselves down the river. No dounbt they live their Christian lives the same way which is why they are willing to comproimise at the polls.
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It all depends on which type of New World Order one wants to live under. A left wing NWO or a right wing NWO.

That's the choice we're being offered. So, take your pick.

Myself, I'm sitting this one out. I'll not take part in selling this country and it's people out to foreign interests. You all do what you think is best.

Then live with it.

 

[InTheLight]

I don't know of you understand what Islam teaches, but A Muslim could never be those things you mentioned especially a strict constitutionalist as Islam is a political/religious movement which uses the Koran to govern not freedom. Neither could an atheist meet those qualifications you gave.

Using your reasoning no (self-professing) Christian could be pro-choice, pro-homosexual rights, yet there is Obama.

An atheist could certainly meet the qualifications as could a religiously liberal Muslim. Muslims are anti-gay rights.

 

[freeatlast]

Using your reasoning no (self-professing) Christian could be pro-choice, pro-homosexual rights, yet there is Obama.

An atheist could certainly meet the qualifications as could a religiously liberal Muslim. Muslims are anti-gay rights.

I have never heard of, much less met an atheist or Muslim who held the views that you mentioned in post 8. Have you? If so please tell me who as I would like to talk with them and understand how they hold those views and claim to be atheist or Muslim.

 

[Don]

[SIZE=-0]SO! Why would we tale part of voting in a Hitler when the other choice was a Stalin?
This idea of the lessor of two evil is in no way of the Lord. It is one reason we are in this situation we are in. Way too many who claim to be Christians compromising and selling this nation and themselves down the river. No dounbt they live their Christian lives the same way which is why they are willing to comproimise at the polls.
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And thus, your answer is to not vote at all, and allow evil to reign unchallenged.

 

[Don]

Actually you did not but that is fine as I should not expect a straight answer from you.

Read what I wrote. The answer is in there.

 

[InTheLight]

I should not expect a straight answer from you.

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Atheist.....probably not, but I don't think it would be impossible. Although, I personally know of Atheists who held the views in post 8...I had a college professor who held those views and was an atheist. My Brother does and is an atheist as well. There are plenty of such creatures. Muslim, however, never, not ever.

There is NO conceivable way I would vote for any Muslim.

 

[poncho]

I have to wonder here, is it any wiser to vote for a president that will continue the foreign policy of supporting and arming muslim extremists?

Let's not forget that Romney's foreign policy advisers are the same ones that "advised" Bush and Obama.

Vote for Obama, help arm a muslim extremist. Vote for Romney help arm a muslim extremist.

I don't know about the rest of you folks but I can't bring myself to vote for anyone that would help arm a muslim extremist. What the man's (POTUS) religious preferences are is of little consequence compared to his support and aid given to muslim extremists.

In my humble opinion of course. :flower:

 

[saturneptune]

It was a hard call to vote for a Mormon, and only under this circumstance. Had the Democrat been a Christian, there is no way. We are basically given a choice of a Muslim/who knows what, and a Mormon. This is the point I was trying to pound home during the primaries and before. It is kind of late to be worrying about this. The time to have nominated a conservative Christian should have started right after the 2008 election. We reap what we sow. If we sit around on our lazy behinds and expect anything better than 2008, then one gets exactly what they asked for.

The only thing that differs Mormons from Muslims is that they do not believe in killing all of us Christians. The only thing that seperates Mormonism from an athiest is a belief in a God in a general way. All three have the nature of Jesus Christ wrong.

Ninty percent of you all argued with me about Romney since 2011, and yes I am going to vote for him, despite what I think. You all defended him, now live with him.

 

[LadyEagle]

I will gladly live 4 years with Romney as President because he is not a socialist.

We will ALL suffer under 4 more years of obama. Mark my words, obama is a closet muslim and will "come out" if he wins the next round. Islam/socialism/marxism are all sides of the same coin.

As far as Mr. Romney being a Mormon, as a kid, I remember how awful Baptists thought it was that we might have a Catholic for president and rumors soared that JFK woud be taking orders from the Vatican, etc. I have relatives who are Mormon, so perhaps I am not as hypercritical of Mormonism as some of the members here. Discussions with those family members have not confirmed the hyperbole about Mormonism that is regularly presented on this board. And when someone professes Jesus Christ is Lord, well, anyone can do that, but how is the walk? God discerns the heart. I won't argue over whether Mormonism is a cult or not. Just as I won't argue over whether the aborted unborn are in heaven or dogs go to heaven or join in the C/A debates. There are no experts, really, on some of these things until we see Jesus. And if a person walks the walk instead of just lip service, I have to accept that. We are all imperfect. Some are saved by grace. Some are flat out wicked.

So, if Republicans nominate an atheist, then I will sit out the election, or if I totally gave up hope that things could turn around. I guess that will be when I'm raptured or dead, that I give up hope, though some days are more hopeful than others. The way the world is, it makes me wonder how Noah could have kept going all those decades, building an ark, living in the midst of evil. But I digress....

If Mr. Romney professes to be a Christian and believes Jesus Christ is Lord and lives out conservative Christian ideals and principles, and demonstrates his love for this country, that is good enough for me. And we know he will stand with Israel (because he is a Mormon) and we know where he was born. That he is a genuine natural born citizen. Those 2 things we know for certain, without a doubt.

As far as I am concerned, we already have a muslim in the WH, though not an outwardly practicing one. Yet. (Personally, I believe he is AC, but that is another thread).

ANYONE is better than what the socialist party (Democrats) have to offer. Even a Donald Trump.

So, no. I have no problem with Mitt Romney as an alternative to obama. I pray the Lord protects him and his family.

 

[th1bill]

So what about the OP question;
Here is my question. If you follow that philosophy then does that mean you would vote for a practicing Atheist or a Muslim?

I did not the first time and I will never vote for the Muslim there now. I will vote for Mickey Mouse if the Republicans run him.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

I will gladly live 4 years with Romney as President because he is not a socialist.

Same here....Not that I am thrilled by Romney, as he is milquetoast at best, but we have had worse....

We will ALL suffer under 4 more years of obama. Mark my words, obama is a closet muslim and will "come out" if he wins the next round. Islam/socialism/marxism are all sides of the same coin.

As far as a closet Muslim....I have never agreed with that, mainly because there is NOTHING about Obama which suggests to me that he believes there is any being anywhere in the Universe to whom worship is due above and beyond himself. Barry worships Barry. That being said, he warms to Islam and Muslims (and is partial to them) mainly due to his being insanely hostile to Christianity and the God of the Bible. People of Obama's ilk only like Islamists because they violently destroy all that is good about Western Culture and they murder innocent Christians...if it weren't for that, they would simply be a bunch of anti-abortion extremists. It's more of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

 

[LadyEagle]

Did you mean pro-abortion extremists or did I read it wrong?

You could be right about the other, but I still say we will have to wait and see if he wins and takes the oath of office on the Quran......just saying.....

 

[AresMan]

Did you mean pro-abortion extremists or did I read it wrong?

You could be right about the other, but I still say we will have to wait and see if he wins and takes the oath of office on the Quran......just saying.....

I would like to see the presidential candidate (whichever party), who takes the Oath of Office, actually follow through with that Oath (done before God and country). We haven't seen this in a long time. How many people here consider that a determining factor in casting a vote?