War on Terror?

If you will re-read what I wrote you will find that that five years to which I refer would be at the end of 2007.

 

Ken H,

Maybe there wouldn't have been a 9/11 period if your president Bill Clinton had not been such a pansy and a coward when it came to doing something about terror?
You had a quote a few pages back something like this: "it won't do any good if we are
ecomomically bankrupt".
I think that is your main concern right there.
The only thing bush as done wrong concerning Iraq is try to please the libs. in this country and around the world by trying to be politically correct while at the same time fight a war.

All I can say is thank God men with your weak constitution were mighty hard to find back during the days of WWII. Because if there were more like you we would all be speaking German.

Also, guys like you make me want to throw up when you claim to support the troops but at the same time you run around in your sphere of influence int this country (which I hope is small) telling everyone how wrong the war is.

Your views are ignorant and cowardly. The war on terror will never be over. At least while we remain on the offensive. If somebody like hillary gets into office and we roll over and kiss the UN and Western Europe's backsides then it will be curtains for us.

What is sad is the young marine I just met who works out at our local gym. He just got through doing two tours in Iraq. I made the statement to him how I hate the fact that people claim to support the troops but hate the war. He hates it too. He knows the hypocrisy of that notion. Yet this fellow looks at me and says "Well that is what we are over there protecting, the right for them to have the freedom to have that opinion".
This was coming from a fellow that has put it all on the line so a little lib. like yourself can sit here in the comfort of a forum and run down the cause he is willing to give his life for.
You know I believe I will take his word over a coward like yourself anyday. He has put some action behind his words. His actions back up his words. Your words are a contradiction to your actions. What? You thow some money to the cause and then run down the cause? Hypocrite. Can't have it both ways. Well you can if your a lib. Cause yall don't see things in black and white, right and wrong it is all couched in nuance and shades of grey.
SBC is right with what he said up above. I guy like you would be one of the first to cry like a little baby when the terrorist bombed your town. Instead of blaming the terrorist you would cry to Uncle Sam for not protecting you like he should have.
Guts, you need to find yours.

 

BTW,

CraigbytheSea started this thread. Gee that doesn't suprise me. Here is a guy who gets all bent out of shape over sniffing a little cigerette smoke but probably doesn't mind drinking beer.
Also, where is a moderator when you need one. Expain to me how this is a "general baptist" thread?
This should be in the News section or maybe we should start a new section: The socialist,communist,pansy,liberal section.

Maybe we should have a Quaker forum here. Seems to me we have a bunch of passivists running round.

 

No, I just have strong convictions concerning the safety of our country.

If your going to run down our country all the time
just remember nobody is holding you hostage your free to leave at anytime. You wouldnt have the option to run your country down if you were and Iraqie livin in Iraq under the rule of Sadaam.

He would just cut your tongue out or worse.

What other country would help liberate a people whose dictator killed hundreds of thousands of his subjects and buried them in mass graves?

Spreading freedom abroad secures our freedom at home.

 

1) If you were a citizen of these United States then Bill Clinton was your president, too. By the way, I never voted for Bill Clinton for president. I did vote for George W. Bush for president twice. I would not vote for him a third time if he could run for re-election again.

2) I hope that Senator Clinton never wins an election to become president.

3) I am not a liberal. I am against all abortions - with no exceptions. I am against the idea of "homosexual" marriage. I believe as Thomas Jefferson did that the best government is that which governs least.

There are lots of conservatives, and libertarians, who are opposed to an open-ended commitment to stay in Iraq for years and years and years and years - which is basically what the Bush administration is advocating.

 

For someone who claims to be such a conservative you are sure out of line with our Founding Fathers:

"America is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." - John Quincy Adams

"America goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy." - John Quincy Adams

The Executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war. - James Madison

"Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war." - John Adams

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world." - George Washington

"No nation could preserve freedom in the midst of continual war." - James Madison

 

Ken H.
Your last post is the best I have seen on this thread. I too would not vote for him a third time. Iran is a much worse threat than Iraq ever was. I have also come to believe that if 9-11 had never happened, we would still be in Iraq.

What galls me is equating a Holy God or His Word or Jesus with either political party in the United States today.

 

Oil was very important to Japan in 1941 as well. That's why they bombed Pearl Harbor.

Why do you think we invaded Iraq? Certainly nopt because of 9/11. Iraq had very little if anything to do with al Quaeda. Democracy for Iraq? Democracy will either fold after a civil war or Iraq will become a radical Islamic state like Iran. Then they will ally themselves with Iran and the U.S. will be in a much worse state than we were before.

 

Look I want to apologize to all on this thread.
Some of us may differ on political opinions. Its
America and that is what makes it great.

Ken H., Craigbythesea, I was totally out of line as a christian, and as a minister. I ask for your apology? I diagree to a degree with your political opinions yet we can agree to disagree in christian terms.
All of my "personal digs" were totally out of line. I'm ashamed of myself as a christian gentleman.
It is amazing what a good dose of Sunday services will do for a fellow.

Really I'm convicted about it. Sometimes I think that this board doesnt do anything but stir up the flesh. You gentlemen have a good evening or day depending upon when you get this post.

 

Not a problem, shannonL. I enjoy a good political brawl, I mean political debate , as much as anyone.

The main problem I see in debates on this board is that because of a person's position on one particular issue that sometimes other folks run with that and assume they know what that person's position is on lots of other issues.

Have a good evening, brother.