"Was John the Baptist - really a Baptist" ?

[Salty]

There are those who insist that John the Baptist, was actually a Baptist.
Interesting - seeing that Baptists did not even become a group until the 1600's.

And Anabaptis do not have a lot in common with Baptists. Granted, they may be
spiritual ancestor of modern Baptists, Mennonites, and Quakers. -- The first
Anabaptists were formed in the early 1500's -

So if Baptists and predecessos did not arrive until the 1500's - then there is no way that
John the Baptist was an actual Baptists.

Then you have the:
Neo-Anabaptists[edit]
The term Neo-Anabaptist has been used to describe a late twentieth and early twenty-first century theological movement within American evangelical Christianity which draws inspiration from theologians located within the Anabaptist tradition while remaining ecclesiastically outside of it. Neo-Anabaptists have been noted for its "low church, counter-cultural, prophetic-stance-against-empire ethos" and for focusing on pacifism, social justice and poverty.[65][66] The works of Mennonite theologians Ron Sider and John Howard Yoder are frequently cited as having a strong influence on the movement.[67]


From Wiki: Anabaptism - Wikipedia

 

[Reformed1689]

No, John the Baptist, was not a "Baptist." Christian Baptism was not even instituted in his lifetime (he was executed before Christ was). John did a baptism of repentance, a purification ritual. John the Baptizer would be better understood.

 

[37818]

No, John the Baptist, was not a "Baptist." Christian Baptism was not even instituted in his lifetime (he was executed before Christ was). John did a baptism of repentance, a purification ritual. John the Baptizer would be better understood.

Maybe, John 4:1-2, ". . . When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) . . . ." It is my understanding though, John was the last of the OT prophets.

 

[AustinC]

John was a prophet in Israel who implemented a water baptism whereby people made public proclamation that they were repenting. His water baptism had nothing to do with salvation.

The one baptism that is effectual is the Holy Spirit's immersion of the adopted person into Christ Jesus.

 

[Reformed1689]

Maybe, John 4:1-2, ". . . When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) . . . ." It is my understanding though, John was the last of the OT prophets.

Yes, Scripture lists John with the OT prophets.

 

[Yeshua1]

There are those who insist that John the Baptist, was actually a Baptist.
Interesting - seeing that Baptists did not even become a group until the 1600's.

And Anabaptis do not have a lot in common with Baptists. Granted, they may be
spiritual ancestor of modern Baptists, Mennonites, and Quakers. -- The first
Anabaptists were formed in the early 1500's -

So if Baptists and predecessos did not arrive until the 1500's - then there is no way that
John the Baptist was an actual Baptists.

Then you have the:
Neo-Anabaptists[edit]
The term Neo-Anabaptist has been used to describe a late twentieth and early twenty-first century theological movement within American evangelical Christianity which draws inspiration from theologians located within the Anabaptist tradition while remaining ecclesiastically outside of it. Neo-Anabaptists have been noted for its "low church, counter-cultural, prophetic-stance-against-empire ethos" and for focusing on pacifism, social justice and poverty.[65][66] The works of Mennonite theologians Ron Sider and John Howard Yoder are frequently cited as having a strong influence on the movement.[67]


From Wiki: Anabaptism - Wikipedia

Not a Baptist, but the last Prophet of the OT eras, and the forerunner of the Messiah!

 

[David Kent]

And Anabaptis do not have a lot in common with Baptists. Granted, they may be
spiritual ancestor of modern Baptists, Mennonites, and Quakers. -- The first
Anabaptists were formed in the early 1500's -

There were Anabaptists in the early centuries. The Montanists rebaptised those who came from outside their sect, and those from outside, rebaptised those who came from the Montanists.

 

[church mouse guy]

Did anyone mention that John is the greatest of all the prophets?

Matthew 11:11 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

 

[Yeshua1]

Did anyone mention that John is the greatest of all the prophets?

Matthew 11:11 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

And yet the least in the NC would be greater then him!

 

[David Kent]

I don' know if Acts 19:3-5 has any bearing?

Those who only had John's baptism were rebaptised in the name of Jesus. On the other hand, John was called John the Baptist.

 

[canadyjd]

John the Baptizer was a Jewish priest, son of a Jewish priest, probably of the sect of the Essenes that believed Temple worship had been corrupted.

His ministry was transitional, foreshadowing the time when temple worship would cease and forgiveness would come not by yearly sacrifices but by faith in Jesus, who made the final sacrifice for sin.

His baptism was not Christian Baptism and he was not a “baptist” in the way we use that word.

peace to you

 

[Reynolds]

There are those who insist that John the Baptist, was actually a Baptist.
Interesting - seeing that Baptists did not even become a group until the 1600's.

And Anabaptis do not have a lot in common with Baptists. Granted, they may be
spiritual ancestor of modern Baptists, Mennonites, and Quakers. -- The first
Anabaptists were formed in the early 1500's -

So if Baptists and predecessos did not arrive until the 1500's - then there is no way that
John the Baptist was an actual Baptists.

Then you have the:
Neo-Anabaptists[edit]
The term Neo-Anabaptist has been used to describe a late twentieth and early twenty-first century theological movement within American evangelical Christianity which draws inspiration from theologians located within the Anabaptist tradition while remaining ecclesiastically outside of it. Neo-Anabaptists have been noted for its "low church, counter-cultural, prophetic-stance-against-empire ethos" and for focusing on pacifism, social justice and poverty.[65][66] The works of Mennonite theologians Ron Sider and John Howard Yoder are frequently cited as having a strong influence on the movement.[67]


From Wiki: Anabaptism - Wikipedia

Nope. Ole J.D. Greear would not allow him in because John is too intolerant.

 

[rlvaughn]

Was John the Baptist - really a Baptist?

No, he was not a Baptist, he was the Baptist.

John was a forerunner of Christ, in the beginning of a new era.

• Mark 1:1-3 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; as it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
• Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

John was sent from God. His baptism was from heaven.

• John 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
• Mark 11:30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.

The disciples of Jesus baptized under their Lord’s direction even while John was still baptizing.

• John 4:1-2 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, (though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

John’s baptism was not “defective.” It is the only water baptism the apostles ever had. The Ephesians were not “rebaptized” because they were baptized by John, but because they were baptized unto John’s baptism. Apollos knew only the baptism of John. He was taught, but not “rebaptized” (Acts 18:25).

• John 1:35-37 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; and looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.
• Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.

 

[Marooncat79]

There were Anabaptists in the early centuries. The Montanists rebaptised those who came from outside their sect, and those from outside, rebaptised those who came from the Montanists.

Montanists were non-cessationists

 

[David Kent]

Montanists were non-cessationists

I know that. he said "I am the Paraclete".

 

[tyndale1946]

I know that. he said "I am the Paraclete".

Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Jesus called him John the Baptist... I rest my case... Brother Glen