Was Mary a Biological Mother or a Surrogate Mother for Jesus?

[cowboymatt]

Look, I'm not saying that I don't respect what the no-eggers are doing, which is trying to protect the sinlessness of Jesus. However, their efforts are in vain because the Bible does not teach that damnable sins are passed down genetically.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

This is sad SFIC. Look closely at what you said:

1. Rom.3:10 As it is written there is none righteous, no not one.

2. Christ could not be born of a woman's egg or he too would be numbered with the unrighteous.

It is this last statement that is blasphemous, and you connect it with Romans 3:10 taking Scripture out of context again. For Christ was born of Mary's seed according to Isa.7:14 and Mat.1:20 which you refuse to believe.

I therefore point that out to you and you come back and say:

Do you actually take pleasure in twisting my words, DHK? In false accusations against me?

Nowhere in that statement did I say Christ was unrighteous. Nowhere.

I said if men were born righteous, Christ would not have had to die.

As I said before, if you cannot say something nice about me, don't talk about me at all.

You accusing me of blasphemy is really sad.

The sad thing is, SFIC, is your connection with Christ being a sinner. Yes you have done that. I just demonstrated it. You may have done it unwittingly because of your unbelief in the doctrine of the virgin belief. But it is there.
I have explained it in more detail in yet another post. Your taking Scripture out of its context is doing you more harm than good.

No, it is not blasphemous, DHK.

Scripture says nothing of God putting Christ in a woman's egg. The woman's egg produces sinful flesh. Christ could not come in sinful flesh. Only a spotless and unblemished lamb was accepted as a sacrifice in the Old Testament. Christ had to be spotless as well.

 

[DHK]

We have reached a 30 page limit.
Time to close it down.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

You have yet to show Scripture that provides any evidence for that belief. Provide Scripture--in its proper context--to back up your belief. Where is it? There is none.

Where is your Scripture that says Christ was put in an egg?

 

[Linda64]

Note who it is in Psalm 58.3 that are estranged and go astray, not everyone, just the wicked. Again, this is poetry and the clear intent of the psalmist is to indicate how wicked the wicked are. Psalm 58.3 is not a verse that indicates everyone is born in damnable sin through genetics.

Romans 3.10 does not dispute what I have claimed all along, that everyone sins. I am just not willing to read my theological heritage onto the Bible. Romans 3.10 does not say that sin is passed down genetically.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Who is the all in this verse?

Why did Jesus say:

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
If you are not "in Christ" you are "in Adam".

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

If you don't believe that sin is passed down genetically, why is there sicknes, death, birth defects, physical handicaps, etc., from where does sin come from and how come all are born with a sin nature as Romans 3:23 states?