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Dave G
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If by "Arminian" you're referring to one that teaches all of what is commonly called "Wesleyan Arminianism" ( or simply "Arminianism" ) and preaches holiness combined with loss of salvation, then my best recommendation is to look up the "Free Will Baptists" and find a forum that is maintained by one of them.
May God bless you in many ways.
Strannik
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If by "Arminian" you're referring to one that teaches all of what is commonly called "Wesleyan Arminianism" ( or simply "Arminianism" ) and preaches holiness combined with loss of salvation, then my best recommendation is to look up the "Free Will Baptists" and find a forum that is maintained by one of them.
May God bless you in many ways.
Thank you so much for the tip. May the Lord bless you, too.))
Arminianism is error.If you examine it, it is abundant why people have rejected it.
Strannik
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Well, so far I have not seen anything in favor of Calvinism, but on the contrary, I am confirmed in the Teaching of Christ, that the Lord God commands all people everywhere to repent and be baptized to everyone in the name of the Father and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
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30 Therefore, leaving the times of ignorance, God now commands all men everywhere to repent.
17:30)
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38 But Peter said to them, " Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
(Acts 2: 38)
There is the Online Baptists site that kicked me out for being a Calvinist!If by "Arminian" you're referring to one that teaches all of what is commonly called "Wesleyan Arminianism" ( or simply "Arminianism" ) and preaches holiness combined with loss of salvation, then my best recommendation is to look up the "Free Will Baptists" and find a forum that is maintained by one of them.
May God bless you in many ways.
Many Fundamental Baptist forums seem to swing free will way!
I as a Calvinist welcome as a fellow brother/sister in the Lord Jesus any who have been saved, regardless if cal or not!
Calvinism believes in all these verses.Why do you suggest otherwise?
Strannik
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Can I have their address?
Strannik
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Well, the Calvinists do not see this, because they believe and impose heresy on everyone in tm that God created sinners specifically for hell and torment.
You are blaming God for man's sin?
That is error on your part.
God created man good Gen1:31
Looks as if you do not understand Calvinism as taught in scripture.
Strannik
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I don't blame God. It is the Calvinists who accuse Him of our sins.
I understand about Calvinism what 1) Calvinists themselves say about themselves and their teachings, and 2) what the Word itself says about this error.
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See for yourself. After all, it is the Calvinists who teach that the Lord God purposefully, by His Own will, predestined some even before they were born and created any conscious sins and repentances to eternal bliss, and others to eternal torment.
Don't you think it's absurd to claim Someone who isn't hypocritical, isn't lying, is Very Merciful, and is just our Father?
Strannik
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I have a question. How do you believe in them? How do you interpret them?
Don't you see that God makes it possible for all people to be saved?
you do not understand the teaching, and are making a caricature of it
Show a quote of a Calvinist saying God is the author of sin. No one says that.
God elected those to saved,and passed over the rest.
maybe you could read the 1689 confession of faith and see the truth.
No...God does not do a potential salvation, but an actual salvation.
God never designed to save all people ever born.
You are getting defective teaching, but we will offer correction for you.
That is your misunderstanding and stumbling block. It is not what person's who believe in God's full Sovereignty teach.
Jesus, Paul, Peter and John all teach God's Sovereign choice as Ruler. You need to take it up with God as to why He doesn't do it the way you demand.
Some hold to double predestination, while some of us do not!
I PM you!
Strannik
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30 Therefore, leaving the times of ignorance, God now commands all men everywhere to repent.
17:30)
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In your opinion, everyone is obliged to repent, but not everyone is obliged to be saved? Why then should they repent? For statistics?
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23 Do I want the death of the wrongdoer? says the Lord God. Is it not that he should turn from his ways and live?
(Ezek. 18: 23)
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Do you think God still wants the wrongdoers to die? If He does not want to, why did He not grant salvation from Himself to all?
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19 Today I call heaven and earth to witness before you: I have offered you life and death, blessing and curse. Choose life, that you and your offspring may live,
20 You have loved the LORD your God, and listened to his voice, and clung to him; for this is your life, and the length of your days, that you may dwell in the land which the LORD swore to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them.
(Deut. 30: 19,20)
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If people have no choice and no free will, then why this theater? Or maybe this is still not a theater, but you are mistaken and God still gave us the right to choose?
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12 But when Jesus heard this, he said to them, " It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick,
13 Go and learn what it means: I want mercy, and not sacrifice. For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
(Matt.9:12,13)
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28 Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest.;
29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.;
30 For my yoke is good, and my burden is light.
(Matthew 11: 28-30)
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What do you think Jesus Christ is talking about here, if He needs not just the righteous in life, but that He came to heal and correct all sinners who turned to Him?
What kind of Mercy does He speak of, if in your opinion He does not show His Mercy to many people, whom He, being God, simply created condemned to death?
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