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'We can't cover everything for everyone.'

FR7 Baptist

Active Member
That's an incredibly ignorant and naive assesment of what a public option would do.

The truth is there are no "death panels." What there is is an independent commission to set reimbursement rates for Medicare. Even conservatives like JohnV have admitted there are no death panels. Now, Medicare does have some budget issues. A Medicare buy-in could help pay for Medicare because younger people buying in to Medicare would not use as much, and their premiums could help stabalize the system for old people who take up most of the resources. We can also help costs by cracking down on Medicare fraud and readjusting reimbursement rates for certian equipment that Medicare tends to overpay for.
 

targus

New Member
The truth is there are no "death panels." What there is is an independent commission to set reimbursement rates for Medicare.

And the persons advising on those commissions have already gone on record in favor of a system that evalutes individuals worth to society and determines the medical services that such individuals may receive relative to others deemed to be more valuable.

The elderly, infirmed, and handicapped have less value in the eyes of those people.

Death panel...? Call it what you will but you know what they say about looking like a duck, sounding like a duck and walking like a duck.
 

Nonsequitur

New Member
The issue isn't who decides treatment, it's what treatment is covered by insurance. I categorically oppose federalized healthcare, but whether insurance is public or private, it doesn't mean that everything must be covered, or that the insurer is entitled to unlimited free health coverage.

Uh...yes it is...if the treatment is covered by the insurance policy, (a contract), then it must apply.
It must cover what they payed for.
You are right in that. So....
If their policy is for kids with broken arms falling out of trees, then it doesn't include cancer for that kid.
But if it is for illness, then no matter the disease, it must be covered. That is what they payed for. That is the idea of insurance.
Just because the policy holder has an expensive disease should not negate that contract.
 

billwald

New Member
Are you all opposed to all health rationing or just health rationing that might effect you some day? For example, should health services be rationed for people now in prison? Should a convicted murderer be put on a list to receive an organ transplant?
 
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