Weighing in on the Trayvon Case

[Gershom]

911 operator: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yes.

However, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Zimmerman does appear to lie a lot and very well could have meant "no" when he said yes. After all, women have been accused of this for centuries.

Then they told him don't do that, and he said he did not pursue him after that but watched his direction in order to inform the police of his whereabouts.

 

[Don]

911 operator: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yes.

However, i'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Zimmerman does appear to lie a lot and very well could have meant "no" when he said yes. After all, women have been accused of this for centuries.

ouch........

 

[Don]

Okay, someone define "innocent child" for me.

I take the "innocent" part to mean he wasn't guilty of anything at the time, which I fully agree with.

But "child"? Again, 17 years old, 6'3". *NOT* the picture that the media and everyone threw around of when he was 12.

 

[DiamondLady]

Did you watch the interview?

Yes, but I'd also like to note that I live in Florida...we get the Orlando Fox news station so I've been hearing this and more for months now.

George Zimmerman FOLLOWED Trayvon. He was wrong. Even after the 911 operator told him to stop he got OUT of his car and FOLLOWED him. That boy did not go up to his car, open the door, drag him out, and ...what was it...oh yes, "beat his head into the sidewalk." George Zimmerman came after him with a drawn gun. I might have beat his head into the sidewalk also, thinking this guy is going to shoot me.

 

[DiamondLady]

Then they told him don't do that, and he said he did not pursue him after that but watched his direction in order to inform the police of his whereabouts.

Please...if he didn't pursue him then why was he OUT OF HIS CAR with a DRAWN GUN?????

 

[DiamondLady]

Likewise I don't think there would have been an outcry because if cops had shown up and a Black man was standing over a body with a gun in his hand, we'd probably have two dead bodies instead of one. That's just how things are unfortunately.

Ummmm you're right, there'd have been two dead bodies. This is Florida where the police shoot first and ask questions later. Here when the police pull up and come at you with guns drawn it's best to stand still, raise your hands slowly and say nothing...you might live through the night.

 

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[Zaac]

In Georgia, don't you just assume everyone is armed ?

Nope.:laugh:

 

[Zaac]

Yes, but I'd also like to note that I live in Florida...we get the Orlando Fox news station so I've been hearing this and more for months now.

George Zimmerman FOLLOWED Trayvon. He was wrong. Even after the 911 operator told him to stop he got OUT of his car and FOLLOWED him. That boy did not go up to his car, open the door, drag him out, and ...what was it...oh yes, "beat his head into the sidewalk." George Zimmerman came after him with a drawn gun. I might have beat his head into the sidewalk also, thinking this guy is going to shoot me.

Precisely. That's why I believe he's going to be found guilty, not to mention all the inconsistencies that are popping up in his story with every new interview.

This is probably why the initial investigator wanted to charge him.

 

[Zaac]

"Standing your ground" is not attacking someone who you think "has a problem." If anything, Zimmerman stood his ground after this innocent child broke his nose and beat his head on the pavement.

Part of the Florida Law says

776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—

The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or

(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

Section 2a might get him off. But his problem again is he pursued the child. It's kinda hard to claim imminent danger or anything else when you still followed the child after being instructed to not do that.