Featured Were Men Born Again Before Pentecost?

No such apology will be forthcoming, I am afraid, because I have said nothing I can apologize for.

[Personal attack edited]. And for what cause: to show that Christ is not speaking in the present tense, and deny that His statement means He was in Heaven.

If you think, after the insults you have offered to me, that you deserve an apology, then as I said before, perhaps your position as a Moderator should be questioned. The abuse of power should not be found in the Body of Christ, and that is what this would amount to if a Moderator feels he can insult without consequence.


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T Cassidy, we are discussing an issue and what I am saying is not necessarily a direct statement to your belief, but a direct statement to the conclusions drawn from what you have said.

If you say one thing, it means this.

Nothing more.


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This is what I believe you believe...

...and this is derived from your own statements.


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Oops, wrong quote. Here is the proper one:

And again, derived from your own statements, and challenged. These are the only conclusions that can be drawn from the arguments you have presented.


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Are you saying that you do not think men were born again before Pentecost?


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Could you elaborate on what he states you feel is nonsense, and then respond with a treatment of those issues from Scripture?


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Finally, a statement!

Would you care to bring up one point which you find to be false?


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Interesting, you are saying that Catholics teach men were not born again until Pentecost?

Do you have a link to support that?


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Not sure how you see that. Not one person has presented anything that would suggest men were born again under the Law or previous economies.

Not only that, is it good enough for you that you simply agree with a view without taking the time to show, from Scripture, why that view is yours, and not just borrowed from someone else? Isn't this what you rail against (What are preachers teaching people?)?

So I will ask you one question: can men be born again yet not have their sins forgiven?

Okay, two questions: can men be born again and not have the Indwelling of God?


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Okay, so far we haven

Sure, but the point was that so far you have sat behind the scenes commenting only through likes, disagrees, et cetera.

I could care less about "respectability," I care about the doctrine, because the answer to this doctrine is not only important, but it will change how one interprets most of the Bible.

So far, about the only argument presented is "Of course they were, because Christ expected Nicodemus to know what He was talking about, this proves it could happen then."

And that has been dealt with, but, we are still faced with the fact that is about it, other than personal opinions presented without a Scriptural basis.

I missed on post because I engaged with John of Japan (and my hat off to him for he has been the best participant in actually discussing the issues) where a member stated he believed that men were spiritually alive in the Old Testament.

So for you, IT, my hope is to motivate you to participation, and if you do not care to, okay. But, I again challenge you to support your view when you interject comments such as you just did.

Do you think that type of interaction is something that earns or deserves respect?


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