Were there dinosaurs on the ark?

[JD731]

Yes to the question of the op. Dinosaurs are just long living reptiles that never stop growing. Logic says a 600 year old reptile will be significantly larger than a 60 year old, and would require much more food. Throw in an ice age and a different environment and you probably are not going to have huge dinosaurs any longer. Adam lived a total of 930 years but he did not continue to grow after he reached maturity. Neither did anyone else, except maybe the giants, the soulless creatures that were produced from unions between angels and women and which populated the earth before the flood and whose finger print was found in the line of Canaan after the flood.

 

[JD731]

One question that arises is when did the "Flood" occur? I think the biblical answer is less than 7000 years ago. But certainly "dinosaur like" animals (gators and other large reptiles) existed less than 7000 years ago, so at least "prototypes" were on the Ark.

The flood came 1656 years after creation, the year Methuselah died, who was 969 years old at the time, if my memory of my studies serves me right.

 

[jbible]

who said they had any?

How many trees survive a major tsunami? How many survived Mount St Helen's and the water which came from ice melt?

So ask yourself this. How many trees would survive a global flood? and even if they did survive would they not be nuried under layers of sediment?


can you explain further. this does not make sense..

thank you

One question that arises is when did the "Flood" occur? I think the biblical answer is less than 7000 years ago. But certainly "dinosaur like" animals (gators and other large reptiles) existed less than 7000 years ago, so at least "prototypes" were on the Ark.

I agree... if we take Ussher's account.. then Creation took place around 4004 B.C... which is what Scofield also taught... many believe this to be fairly accurate.. but some think the earth is around 4000 to 6000 years old... I tend to be somewhere in between this.... it could be closer to 6000.... yet if we trace the geneologies thru in Genesis... and close with Joseoh... then beging Exodus with the birth of Moses... then the 4004 B.C. date does seem plausible.. I have done the time tline several times thru Genesis.. and through to Ezra and Nehemiah's day.. and this time tine of4004..B.C... seems to fit.. also Ironsides.. has followed it as well.. there must be something to it.. but as i said.. I can allow for a little margin perhaps it is possible the earth weas closer to 7000 years old I do Not know...... but definitely Not ...the age the scientists give as milions and mllions.. of years...I believe that Job was either pre or post flood and be explained.. within that time frame either by accepting the facgt that Dinosaurs existed at the time of Job.. before the flood.. or that what Job was refering to was a giant sea creature...

 

[jbible]

The flood came 1656 years after creation, the year Methuselah died, who was 969 years old at the time, if my memory of my studies serves me right.[/QUOTEI believe that the time of the flood was about 2348 B.C. and as you said ... Methusalah died the year of the flood perhaps right before it.. and Lamech.. Noah's father died 5 years before the flood..

 

[jbible]

I agree... if we take Ussher's account.. then Creation took place around 4004 B.C... which is what Scofield also taught... many believe this to be fairly accurate.. but some think the earth is around 4000 to 6000 years old... I tend to be somewhere in between this.... it could be closer to 6000.... yet if we trace the geneologies thru in Genesis... and close with Joseoh... then beging Exodus with the birth of Moses... then the 4004 B.C. date does seem plausible.. I have done the time tline several times thru Genesis.. and through to Ezra and Nehemiah's day.. and this time tine of4004..B.C... seems to fit.. also Ironsides.. has followed it as well.. there must be something to it.. but as i said.. I can allow for a little margin perhaps it is possible the earth weas closer to 7000 years old I do Not know...... but definitely Not ...the age the scientists give as milions and mllions.. of years...I believe that Job was either pre or post flood and be explained.. within that time frame either by accepting the facgt that Dinosaurs existed at the time of Job.. before the flood.. or that what Job was refering to was a giant sea creature...

I do not insult Calvinists, other than indicate their defense of Calvinism is gibberish. I say Calvinism, four of the five points of the TULIP are unbiblical falsehoods. I am referring to the TULI of the Tulip.

I do not insult Calvinists, other than indicate their defense of Calvinism is gibberish. I say Calvinism, four of the five points of the TULIP are unbiblical falsehoods. I am referring to the TULI of the Tulip.

well clling a defense of Calvinism gibberish.. is a back handed way of insulting Calvanists.. just like calling the KJV or any bible translation you do not like gibberish.. that is an insult to those who trust that particular translation... ..

I have a belief regarding Bible translations and beliefs as well as work ethic.... dont knock them unless.. you have tried them out to see where they are coming from.. not by outside appearances... I have heard a lot of people say.. I could never retire... cuz i always have to be doing something...my answer.. is..

anyone who does Not want to retire when they come must have NEVER worked hard a day in their life at a job they despise... same principal.. anyone who believes thety cant retire.. should try working a job they hate for 50 years or so... and THEN see if they ever want to work again...same with Calvanism

if you try the points of it and then totally agree.. at least then you may be able to say it is gibberish...(FOR YOU)... but not to everyone else...

 

[JesusFan]

So, were there dinosaurs on the ark?
If so - how can they get on since they were so big

If they were on the ark - why do we not have dinosaurs today?

Would have been babies, and majority of even dinosaur adults were not that large!

 

[Van]

I agree... if we take Ussher's account.. then Creation took place around 4004 B.C... which is what Scofield also taught... many believe this to be fairly accurate.. but some think the earth is around 4000 to 6000 years old... I tend to be somewhere in between this.... it could be closer to 6000.... yet if we trace the geneologies thru in Genesis... and close with Joseoh... then beging Exodus with the birth of Moses... then the 4004 B.C. date does seem plausible.. I have done the time tline several times thru Genesis.. and through to Ezra and Nehemiah's day.. and this time tine of4004..B.C... seems to fit.. also Ironsides.. has followed it as well.. there must be something to it.. but as i said.. I can allow for a little margin perhaps it is possible the earth weas closer to 7000 years old I do Not know...... but definitely Not ...the age the scientists give as milions and mllions.. of years...I believe that Job was either pre or post flood and be explained.. within that time frame either by accepting the facgt that Dinosaurs existed at the time of Job.. before the flood.. or that what Job was refering to was a giant sea creature...

I go with Job 38 and say the biblical view is we do not know how old the earth is. But the bible does indicate the first humans were created less than 7000 years ago.

 

[Van]

The topic of this thread is not Calvinist doctrine, but Noah's Ark, what were on it, when was it filled, and had any animals gone extinct before the Ark was filled? If you want to discuss the biblical view of other issues, start a new thread.

 

[Reformed1689]

I believe that no dinosaurs were on the ark and all air breathing ones died at the time of the flood.. so either a).. Job lived before the flood.. or b) the leviathan was not an air breathing dinosaur...

Why do you believe there were no dinos on the Ark but they were alive at the time and how do you square that with Genesis 7:8-9?

 

[robycop3]

there are a lot of false teachings out there today.. maybe some have some truth I don't know.. I've read things such as Cain and Abel were born as twins... Adam had another wife... Lilith..Eve gave birth to babies before the fall..etc.... perhaps this is just another strange belief.. that Adam was born as a baby.. and Eve was his mother?.. I don't know....

Scripture says God decided that Adam needed a suitable helper, so He put Adam to sleep, removed one of his ribs, & made it into Eve. Nowhere does Scripture suggest Eve was made before Adam. Again, had Adam been made as a baby, there woulda been no one to care for him.

 

[JD731]

Yes to the question of the op. Dinosaurs are just long living reptiles that never stop growing. Logic says a 600 year old reptile will be significantly larger than a 60 year old, and would require much more food. Throw in an ice age and a different environment and you probably are not going to have huge dinosaurs any longer. Adam lived a total of 930 years but he did not continue to grow after he reached maturity. Neither did anyone else, except maybe the giants, the soulless creatures that were produced from unions between angels and women and which populated the earth before the flood and whose finger print was found in the line of Canaan after the flood.

I need to correct this mistake in my comments. Adam did not grow into maturity, he was created mature and did not grow larger during his 930 year life.
Sorry bout that.

 

[jbible]

The topic of this thread is not Calvinist doctrine, but Noah's Ark, what were on it, when was it filled, and had any animals gone extinct before the Ark was filled? If you want to discuss the biblical view of other issues, start a new thread.

I understand and I agree... I came across someone calling Calvinist doctrine on this thread gibberish that is why I responded.. but agreed..

 

[jbible]

I need to correct this mistake in my comments. Adam did not grow into maturity, he was created mature and did not grow larger during his 930 year life.
Sorry bout that.

are we discussing the Ark ..... the age of the Dinosaurs... or Adam and Eve?..on this thread.

 

[jbible]

Why do you believe there were no dinos on the Ark but they were alive at the time and how do you square that with Genesis 7:8-9?

read the end of Genesis 7:9... in the KJV..."as God commanded Noah"...God determined what went into the ark...remember when the bible states all.. or every or... two by two.. Proverbs 16:33....:"the lot is cast into the lap but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD"..... God cast the order to load 2 by 2 onto the ark.that is the "lot" .God gets to pick what items.. or in this case ... beings.. are cast into the "lot"... just as the outcome of the "lots" is determined by God... so too , are the choices of things to be cast is by God... the determining of which 2 by 2 is only of the Lord... I cannot say.. why God chose dinosaurs Not to be on the ark.. that is of God

 

[jbible]

I go with Job 38 and say the biblical view is we do not know how old the earth is. But the bible does indicate the first humans were created less than 7000 years ago.

yes you are correct we do not know any exact historic dates or exact timeline in the bible.. all are rough guesses by tracing generations down throughout the centuries.. we can have an approximate time frame of certain things.. at least enough to state earth is not millions of years old...by assuming Jesus was born anywhere between 6 B.C. and 4 A.D. giving or taking this 10 year period... we can go back to the time of Adam.. but then we must also assume... there were No gaps in the recording of any of the generations.. whole generations skipped... etc... if God's word has the whole account of every generation.. then and only then can we state that we have a fair idea......Man is only allowed to know what God wants us to know... so if there IS a period... before Jesus'..time that God does NOT want us to know about.. these years could very easily been omitted.. by the hand of God... I fall short in believing in the Gap theory of Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.. however.....

 

[Reformed1689]

read the end of Genesis 7:9... in the KJV..."as God commanded Noah"...God determined what went into the ark...remember when the bible states all.. or every or... two by two.. Proverbs 16:33....:"the lot is cast into the lap but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD"..... God cast the order to load 2 by 2 onto the ark.that is the "lot" .God gets to pick what items.. or in this case ... beings.. are cast into the "lot"... just as the outcome of the "lots" is determined by God... so too , are the choices of things to be cast is by God... the determining of which 2 by 2 is only of the Lord... I cannot say.. why God chose dinosaurs Not to be on the ark.. that is of God

There is literally nothing in that verse that excludes dinos.

 

[Marooncat79]

Yes to the question of the op. Dinosaurs are just long living reptiles that never stop growing. Logic says a 600 year old reptile will be significantly larger than a 60 year old, and would require much more food. Throw in an ice age and a different environment and you probably are not going to have huge dinosaurs any longer. Adam lived a total of 930 years but he did not continue to grow after he reached maturity. Neither did anyone else, except maybe the giants, the soulless creatures that were produced from unions between angels and women and which populated the earth before the flood and whose finger print was found in the line of Canaan after the flood.

Neither did anyone else, except maybe the giants, the soulless creatures that were produced from unions between angels and women and which populated the earth before the flood and whose finger print was found in the line of Canaan after the flood.

Hogwash

there were no soulless beings.

there are much better explanations for that text.

please tell us where you come up with such nonsense

 

[JD731]

are we discussing the Ark ..... the age of the Dinosaurs... or Adam and Eve?..on this thread.

My original comments were in the context of the dinosaurs on the ark, if you will look. The obvious point of my post is that Noah did not take a 900 year old lizard that had grown to 18 feet tall and weighed 4611 pounds. He took the big lizards baby, that was 2 years old and weighed 3 lb and 8 oz which could be carried in his shoe. I corrected a sentence in the post is all I did. You should look before you leap.

 

[Van]

yes you are correct we do not know any exact historic dates or exact timeline in the bible.. all are rough guesses by tracing generations down throughout the centuries.. we can have an approximate time frame of certain things.. at least enough to state earth is not millions of years old...by assuming Jesus was born anywhere between 6 B.C. and 4 A.D. giving or taking this 10 year period... we can go back to the time of Adam.. but then we must also assume... there were No gaps in the recording of any of the generations.. whole generations skipped... etc... if God's word has the whole account of every generation.. then and only then can we state that we have a fair idea......Man is only allowed to know what God wants us to know... so if there IS a period... before Jesus'..time that God does NOT want us to know about.. these years could very easily been omitted.. by the hand of God... I fall short in believing in the Gap theory of Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.. however.....

I did not suggest anyone believes the Day/Age Theory, the Gap Theory or the Apparent Age Theory. My view is if someone claims the earth was created within a 24 hour day week of Adam being created less than 7000 years ago, they are ignoring Job 38!