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HankD

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Russia, whats going on with the Mueller/Russia thing?

We have been at cold war with Russia since WWII and any politico knows it.

Why is it now suddenly becoming a flashing red light?

Or is it just a convenient excuse for Hillary's lose?
 

FollowTheWay

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Russia, whats going on with the Mueller/Russia thing?

We have been at cold war with Russia since WWII and any politico knows it.

Why is it now suddenly becoming a flashing red light?

Or is it just a convenient excuse for Hillary's lose?
Without free elections America can't maintain a democracy. The Russians have hacked our elections to elect their preferred leaders. This is a crime against the very existence of our country.
 

HankD

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Without free elections America can't maintain a democracy. The Russians have hacked our elections to elect their preferred leaders. This is a crime against the very existence of our country.
Having worked in an intel organization I know that was never their primary objective:

PRIMARY OBJECTIVE: DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
 

Squire Robertsson

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From what I've seen the Kremlin's goal wasn't to interfere with the elections enough to cause its candidate to win. Its goal was to blacken the idea of democracy sufficiently enough that the Russian people would see not see it as something to aspire to.
 

HankD

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Putin wants us gone from the face of the earth. He blames Ronald Reagan and his "Star Wars" policies for the fall of the USSR.

We stand between him and Rebuilding the Soviet Union and the success of worldwide Communism.
 

Reynolds

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Without free elections America can't maintain a democracy. The Russians have hacked our elections to elect their preferred leaders. This is a crime against the very existence of our country.
They did not hack our elections.
 

FollowTheWay

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Having worked in an intel organization I know that was never their primary objective:

PRIMARY OBJECTIVE: DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
Of course. But they also wanted for us to elect a weak leader Putin could control.
 

FollowTheWay

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From what I've seen the Kremlin's goal wasn't to interfere with the elections enough to cause its candidate to win. Its goal was to blacken the idea of democracy sufficiently enough that the Russian people would see not see it as something to aspire to.
They don't care about the aspirations of their people. That's extremely naive. They want to defeat us.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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They don't care about the aspirations of their people. That's extremely naive. They want to defeat us.
It is not naïve at all. Every dictatorship is concerned about the aspirations of its populace. A coup can become a real threat, if people aspire to a different type of government. The current government is well served whenever democracy looks chaotic.
 

Adonia

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Of course. But they also wanted for us to elect a weak leader Putin could control.

Which is why they wanted Hillary. They already had her and her husband in their pocket and she would never have given the Ukrainians the deadly weapons like President Trump has.
 

FollowTheWay

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Which is why they wanted Hillary. They already had her and her husband in their pocket and she would never have given the Ukrainians the deadly weapons like President Trump has.
It's obvious the Russians wanted Trump to win.
 
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