They should not be able to apply that law to something like this. Its absurd.
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What a Diner Did for Customers Who Prayed in Public Wasn’t Only Tolerant, It Was Down
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I agree it is absurd, but let's not fail to remember that the law wasn't applied...it was threatened. FFR sent a letter and the diner complied. The diner could have fought this but chose not to. I'm not saying the diner would have won...in our messed up world they probably wouldn't have...but I would have fought it tooth and nail.
Very poor use of scripture to try to make it apply to, with head bowed and eyes closed, quietly saying grace (sometimes silently) over your meal in a public place.
Just doesn't fit at all.
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Magnetic Poles
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This is specifically the type of situation it applies to...places that accommodate the public. Again, don't like it, get it changed.
Of course you understand MP doesn't like any display of Christianity in public. At all.
I guess he's ashamed of being a christian. :tear:
Magnetic Poles
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Educate yourself on the history of the Civil Rights Act.So you say.
I only needed a "form" because you did not answer the question
The portion I put in italics has NOTHING to do with the OP.
Now, will you answer this question which I asked in post # 17
So I guess that means you think that giving a discount to senior citizens is illegal as well.
Magnetic Poles
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Another show of ignorance, as you have no idea what you are speaking about. I believe Christians should respect the law, as the Bible teaches. When you violate the law and get called on it, then cry "persecution", it is very disingenuous.
Magnetic Poles
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That question was added on an not in your original. As the law doesn't preclude a senior discount, it is legal. It is not about what I think...it is about the clear language of the statute. Reread it.
"without discrimination on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin"
Note that age is not included. Don't make me do all your thinking for you.
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Magnetic Poles
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Also, reread what you italicized...I already stated there that the law was good. Sheesh.
In employment it is illegal to discriminate based on age.
But not when it comes to discounts.
Inconsistent laws.
Its funny, seniors do not want to be re-tested for a drivers license because that would be discrimination.
Well, on the other end - a 12 year old is not allowed to have a drivers license - that too is age discrimination!
Sounds like seniors want their cake and eat it too.
BOTTOM LINE - An owner should be allowed to run his business the way he sees fit.
But not when it comes to discounts.
Inconsistent laws.
Its funny, seniors do not want to be re-tested for a drivers license because that would be discrimination.
Well, on the other end - a 12 year old is not allowed to have a drivers license - that too is age discrimination!
Sounds like seniors want their cake and eat it too.
BOTTOM LINE - An owner should be allowed to run his business the way he sees fit.
The example used is a church bulletin discount.
Which,to me, would make the discount entirely legal. There is no religious requirement. Anyone that can get a church bulletin could get the discount...and that's everyone.
Anyone can appear to be praying. There is no religious test.
Although I will say that I don't much like the idea of a discount for "prayer". I wouldn't accept it.
Magnetic Poles
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<sarcasm>Yeah, let 'em chase those dark skinned folks out of their restaurants with axe handles, a la Lester Maddox. Let's only let them drink from their own water fountains...they'd like that better. Maybe you don't want to sell your house to a black family. Why not, it's your house.</sarcasm>
If business owners were fair, there'd be no need for the anti-discrimination laws.
Oh yeah...seniors are not some monolithic group that all think alike.
The law does allow provide for age discrimation when it comes senior (and junior) discounts.
A Good law
B. Bad law?
Saltys answer A. Good law.
MP's Answer
side note:
A couple years ago, I had a customer call me to attend my Defensive Driving Class. The prospective student wanted to know the price of tuition. I told him how much. He than asked me what the Senior discount was. I told him that was the regular price - and I only gave discounts to those age 25-50.
He then informed me he could take the same course from AARP for less than half what I charged.
A Good law
B. Bad law?
Saltys answer A. Good law.
MP's Answer
side note:
A couple years ago, I had a customer call me to attend my Defensive Driving Class. The prospective student wanted to know the price of tuition. I told him how much. He than asked me what the Senior discount was. I told him that was the regular price - and I only gave discounts to those age 25-50.
He then informed me he could take the same course from AARP for less than half what I charged.
do you know why Lester ran them out.
Oh yeah...seniors are not some monolithic group that all think alike.[/QUOTE]
oh yea.... nationalities, race, religion are not groups that all think alike.
Excellent post - (but I would accept the discount)
Magnetic Poles
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MP's Answer: A - Good law. Seniors typically (not always) live on more limited incomes. If a business wishes to attract this demographic by doing this, it is a good thing. I have no problem with a business taking a little less profit to do this. It helps out our older folks who may not even be able to work anymore, and is a socially reasonable thing to do.
If that makes me in any way inconsistent, I can live with that. I have no issue with the laws that support this.
Now the employment thing is a different law altogether...the ADEA...Age Discrimination in Employment Act. Of course, critical jobs that require fast reflexes are not covered...e.g. airline pilots, train engineers, bus drivers, etc.
Magnetic Poles
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So if someone starts vocalizing a prayer to the dark lord of the underworld, I guess they'd get the discount too.