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What a Vote for Obama means

ShotGunWillie

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BaptistBeliever said:
In response to a free pass given to the Republicans. The truth is somewhere in between and that's why Christians should put all of their support behind one party.


We have......
 

ShotGunWillie

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Crabtownboy said:
Not really true. Why? Because it does not matter who controls Congress as they can do nothing about abortion. There is probably noting a president of either party can do either. It is up to the courts and the possibility of Roe v. Wade being overturned is very remote. Why? Judicial predicent.

I am not for abortion and because I know what almost all politicans know, that nothing can be done, I look at other issues in deciding who gets my vote. Your statement is over generalized and not truthful in the real world.

Not really true either, Why?

Whomever becomes President of the United States, today or tomorrow morning, will be selecting the next Supreme Court Justices. The supreme court can overturn, even with Judicial precedent, the precedent is there for a guideline for all other cases, how many abortion cases have been filed since it was legalized where Roe V Wade was used as the precedent?
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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ShotGunWillie said:
Not really true either, Why?

Whomever becomes President of the United States, today or tomorrow morning, will be selecting the next Supreme Court Justices. The supreme court can overturn, even with Judicial precedent, the precedent is there for a guideline for all other cases, how many abortion cases have been filed since it was legalized where Roe V Wade was used as the precedent?

I doubt any of the Republican appointees will resign under a Democrat.
 

ShotGunWillie

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BaptistBeliever said:
How many times did the procedure you show graphically happen in the last 8 years? Abortions peaked in about 1990 and then started to decrease. They decreased faster in the Clinton years than during the Bush administration. Voting Republican buys you NOTHING as far as reducing abortions. This is especially true this yerar because both McCain and Palin describe themselves as Federalists. They don't support changes in the abortion law at the federal level but instead believe that it should be left up to the states.

YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN BEING DUPED BY THE REPUBLICANS.


Your "Kill-O-Meter" needs to be recalibrated, your figures are way off. Don't state bull crap as a fact unless you can back it up, and don't give me plannedparenthood stats either. You know, one of the groups that helped fund Obama's campaign, you know they guy your voting for because he supports the killing of unborn babies, but wants to take more of my money feed and clothe the lazy.
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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Only Stephens is 'on death's door' at 88. 7 of the 9 are Republican appointees. Ginsburg at 75 is the next oldest. She was appointed by Clinton, so she might leave under Obama.
 

Crabtownboy

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ShotGunWillie said:
Not really true either, Why?

Whomever becomes President of the United States, today or tomorrow morning, will be selecting the next Supreme Court Justices. The supreme court can overturn, even with Judicial precedent, the precedent is there for a guideline for all other cases, how many abortion cases have been filed since it was legalized where Roe V Wade was used as the precedent?

I heard Justice Scalai being interviewed and he basically said that Roe v. Wade will not be overturned. There have been a number of opportunities in other cases, I can't remember how many, to overturn Roe v. Wade and the court has not done so. So there is much precident for not overturning Roe v. Wade. One set of questions every candidate is ask in their hearings deals with how important precident is and none will be approved who do not state, under oath, that it is very important.

Here is what Chief Justice Roberts said under oath .... and you can hardly call him a liberal

he believed the Constitution accorded Americans the right to privacy, which is the key underpinning of Roe v. Wade


Not only is Roberts conservative, but he is Roman Catholic.

You, I, a whole bunch of people may be against abortion, but Congress cannot change the law on this issue, and the Supreme Court is very unlikely to overturn it. It is possible, but extremely unlikely.
 

OldRegular

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Crabtownboy said:
I heard Justice Scalai being interviewed and he basically said that Roe v. Wade will not be overturned. There have been a number of opportunities in other cases, I can't remember how many, to overturn Roe v. Wade and the court has not done so. So there is much precident for not overturning Roe v. Wade. One set of questions every candidate is ask in their hearings deals with how important precident is and none will be approved who do not state, under oath, that it is very important.

Here is what Chief Justice Roberts said under oath .... and you can hardly call him a liberal




Not only is Roberts conservative, but he is Roman Catholic.

You, I, a whole bunch of people may be against abortion, but Congress cannot change the law on this issue, and the Supreme Court is very unlikely to overturn it. It is possible, but extremely unlikely.

One more Justice like Scalia or Thomas and Roe v Wade will be overturned!
 

OldRegular

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Jack Matthews said:
John McCain has sat around on his hands in the senate for 26 years and has done nothing about it, except cut programs that have been proven to help lower the abortion total. Lip service or claiming to be against abortion is not the same thing as actually having a record of doing something about it. How can you vote for that?

Do you have any evidence to support the above nonsense or is this just another democrat attempt to salve your conscience?
 

donnA

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The fact is that christians have voted for socialism/communism, for stabbing babies in the head with scissors. And apparently according to the news they did it for greed. The most important issue for those voters was finances, everything else paled in comparison. So obama voters are 1 issue voters, greed, they bought in to redistribution of wealth, thinking they would get someone else's money and not have to work for it. Oh, anything concerning iraq was very low priority. So far as they are reporting exit polls.
 

LeBuick

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donnA said:
Anyone who vote for Obama knowing he approved stabbing babies in the head with scissors, or ripping their limbs off their bodies while they are alive and kicking from pain, has lied to themselves about who their god is, the God of the bible does not approves stabbing children or ripping them apart for convience to the mother, it allows no such thing. And all the obama worshippers can do is tr to turn attention away from this evil they approve of.


What's a shame is it seems you really believe this stuff...

I know scare tactics and smears has been the rights way of campaigning but it's scary when you actually believe the rhetoric.
 

donnA

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lets see, Obama says he will lift the ban on partial birth abortion, partial birth abortion means stabbing a baby in the head with scissors. And according to you thats alright, nothing for you to bother defending those babies. humm.
You see support in the bible thats it's ok to rip a baby apart, to stab it in the head?
Please show where.
Please show where what I said is not true. Partial birth abortion has nothing to do with stabbing babies in the head(?), abortion is not done by ripping babies apart(?), that the God of the bible does approve it(?). How about proof.
 

LeBuick

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donnA said:
lets see, Obama says he will lift the ban on partial birth abortion, partial birth abortion means stabbing a baby in the head with scissors..

Do you have viable proof he plans to lift this ban?
 

donnA

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LeBuick said:
Do you have viable proof he plans to lift this ban?

He,,, has, said so. It's a known fact he opposes the ban as president that ban will not remain in place.
I asked you for some proofs you have no supplied. biblical proof should be simple if it exists.
 
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