What about OUR dreamers? It's time America stand for it's people ...

[Reynolds]

Moving for a job...not gonna happen again. Did it twice, tired of moving.
Problems with jobs: Yes, over 50 and female are at the top of the list. Stupid interview questions such as "where do you see yourself in 10 years"...in 10 years I want to retire! Another one "how does your husband feel about you working overtime?" Like it's any of your business buddy, but if he has an issue that's between me and him (he never has had an issue before). Or the lovely "how do you feel about working in a male dominated environment"? Gee...if I had an issue with that I'd have never gone into a STEM field. There's also the software issue. I've used a few different design packages and pick them up pretty quickly. HOWEVER...if you're not FULLY conversant in whatever the company is currently using, forget it. I spent my career using Dassault and Autodesk products. But, if they're using Bentley or Smart Plant...well...forget it. Companies are also looking for contract workers...3-12 months and then you're back on the hunt. Nope...lousy pay, crummy per diem and having to maintain a second residence for my husband (who's job/career is here where we live) doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Last but not least is the $$ issue. I have years of experience and I think being offered 15 bucks an hour and no benefits is an insult. Look, I don't get out of bed at the crack of dawn for less than 25 and full bennies. So, I freelance here and there...a little drafting/design, a little tech writing, a little tutoring, a little teaching (I'm an AutoCAD certified professional). When I work, I work. When I don't, I don't. Right now I don't. I was in a car accident about 5 months ago and still having serious problems from being injured in it.

I do not "hate" men. I hate men that think that by virtue of a Y chromosome they are automatically smarter than I am. Those are the ones I have fun with! I don't know where anyone got the idea I "hate" men. I love most men, my husband, sons and grandson especially...I just have issues with idiots who don't have enough brain power to blow their noses who think they know it all.

You are defensive. Every job interview I had since I was married had the question about how my wife felt about me being on call, working overtime, nights, and holidays. I see it as a meaningful question, you see it as a sexist question. You can work, you just feel you are worth more than they offer.

 

[Rolfe]

Every job interview I had since I was married had the question about how my wife felt about me being on call, working overtime, nights, and holidays. I see it as a meaningful question, you see it as a sexist question.

Agree. Try being a pilot or a doctor and not being on call, facing long hours and weekends and holidays, etc. Yep, it is a legitimate question for an interviewer to ask a potential employee.

 

[Rolfe]

I think that a lot of people say that they want to work, but what they mean is that they only want to work on their terms.

 

[saved41199]

I think that a lot of people say that they want to work, but what they mean is that they only want to work on their terms.

And at my age, after a job where I felt like I was someone's slave and the place was utterly insane, well, you want what I know? Then you're gonna pay me for it. You want my 20+ years of experience? Pay for it. You don't pay, I don't give away the store. I do quite well with the freelance when I want to work. I figure they're coming to me...so, obviously I have something you want. The trick is finding out how much you want to pay for it. It's called capitalism.

 

[tyndale1946]

I think that a lot of people say that they want to work, but what they mean is that they only want to work on their terms.

My work involved a lot of Military Contracts in San Diego... I had a leg up because I knew the jargon... I also had a leg up because I loved the graveyard shift... Traffic was a breeze, when I was going to work, people were coming home and when I was going home, people were going to work... At night there were less bosses and we were the most productive shift as we could do our work without interference... I guess I was just a night owl... How many of you other brethren love graveyard?... Probably not many... Brother Glen

 

[just-want-peace]

And at my age, after a job where I felt like I was someone's slave and the place was utterly insane, well, you want what I know? Then you're gonna pay me for it. You want my 20+ years of experience? Pay for it. You don't pay, I don't give away the store. I do quite well with the freelance when I want to work. I figure they're coming to me...so, obviously I have something you want. The trick is finding out how much you want to pay for it. It's called capitalism.

If the above is true, why all the whining about "can't get a job"? If you can freelance "when I want to work" what more do you want? Sorta makes your whole pity party superfluous to your actual circumstances!

 

[Reynolds]

And at my age, after a job where I felt like I was someone's slave and the place was utterly insane, well, you want what I know? Then you're gonna pay me for it. You want my 20+ years of experience? Pay for it. You don't pay, I don't give away the store. I do quite well with the freelance when I want to work. I figure they're coming to me...so, obviously I have something you want. The trick is finding out how much you want to pay for it. It's called capitalism.

Earlier you said you could not buy a job. Now you have offers running out your ears, they just don't pay enough. Make up your mind.

 

[saved41199]

Ok guys...
Let's say you're an engineering director at an engineering/construction company. You get a resume for a design position submitted and you start reading it over. This person has 10 years' experience and certifications for Naval nuclear propulsion design. Certified sub-safe designer. Certified AutoCAD professional. A degree. Familiarity with multiple software suites. Wrote processes, procedures and checklists for various design disciplines to use in a certain project. Total of over 20 years' experience in the design world, mechanical, piping, etc. Your budget for this position is 40K/yr. Are you going to call this person for an interview?

Regarding offers, yes, I've turned down a few. 15 bucks an hour for what's in my toolbox? Nope. Nuh uh...ain't happening. I got offered 12 bucks an hour one place. I laughed in the guy's face.

Again, I'm a capitalist (or a prostitute)...if your bid isn't high enough...tough.

I'm not "whining"...I'm pointing out that your presuppositions are incorrect.

 

[Reynolds]

My work involved a lot of Military Contracts in San Diego... I had a leg up because I knew the jargon... I also had a leg up because I loved the graveyard shift... Traffic was a breeze, when I was going to work, people were coming home and when I was going home, people were going to work... At night there were less bosses and we were the most productive shift as we could do our work without interference... I guess I was just a night owl... How many of you other brethren love graveyard?... Probably not many... Brother Glen

3rd shift for me.

 

[Reynolds]

Ok guys...
Let's say you're an engineering director at an engineering/construction company. You get a resume for a design position submitted and you start reading it over. This person has 10 years' experience and certifications for Naval nuclear propulsion design. Certified sub-safe designer. Certified AutoCAD professional. A degree. Familiarity with multiple software suites. Wrote processes, procedures and checklists for various design disciplines to use in a certain project. Total of over 20 years' experience in the design world, mechanical, piping, etc. Your budget for this position is 40K/yr. Are you going to call this person for an interview?

Regarding offers, yes, I've turned down a few. 15 bucks an hour for what's in my toolbox? Nope. Nuh uh...ain't happening. I got offered 12 bucks an hour one place. I laughed in the guy's face.

Again, I'm a capitalist (or a prostitute)...if your bid isn't high enough...tough.

I'm not "whining"...I'm pointing out that your presuppositions are incorrect.

Maybe its your initial portrayal of your situation that is incorrect. Can't find a job. Can't buy a job. Etc. Etc. Truth is, you do not want to work for the salary offered.

 

[Rolfe]

I guess I was just a night owl... How many of you other brethren love graveyard?... Probably not many... Brother Glen

For a few years I had a schedule that was not quite a graveyard (my day began at 0130). I liked it. It was a fixed schedule and I was at home every night.

The worst were the on-call rotations. Seemed like I was the one who got a lot of the stuff that began at 10pm and turned into all-nighters.

I drank much coffee then.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

My wife is in much the same situation. Though, as a CAD operator, she's at the lower end of the pay scale. Yes, she looking for another position as her current employer is about to move out of commuting range. But, she has the luxury of waiting out low ball offers.

Maybe it's your initial portrayal of your situation that is incorrect. Can't find a job. Can't buy a job. Etc. Etc. Truth is, you do not want to work for the salary offered.

 

[saved41199]

Maybe its your initial portrayal of your situation that is incorrect. Can't find a job. Can't buy a job. Etc. Etc. Truth is, you do not want to work for the salary offered.

this is funny...hysterically funny. I see it as I have a skill to sell. This is the price. You don't want to pay that price, you don't get to buy the skill. Isn't that sort of what capitalism is based on?

would YOU take a 20-30K/yr pay cut? Would you? Be honest.

 

[InTheLight]

You don't want to pay that price, you don't get to buy the skill.

Apparently your price is too high for the market. Perhaps companies are buying the skill you provide for lower prices than you are asking.

would YOU take a 20-30K/yr pay cut? Would you? Be honest.

No, of course not. But apparently companies are getting your skill for $20K less per year nowadays than they did when you were flying high. The market has changed.

Please do not take what I say the wrong way.

 

[Reynolds]

this is funny...hysterically funny. I see it as I have a skill to sell. This is the price. You don't want to pay that price, you don't get to buy the skill. Isn't that sort of what capitalism is based on?

would YOU take a 20-30K/yr pay cut? Would you? Be honest.

You are the one who said you can't get a job. I am not having that problem. Obviously you think you are worth much more than potential employers think you are worth. Honestly, if I needed a job, I would take what I could find even if it were minimum wage. What I think I am worth is not the issue. What the man signing the check thinks I am worth is what matters. If I needed an engineer to design a light pole, why would I pay extra for submarine design expertise that I do not need?

 

[LowOiL]

Fox & Friends: Maybe Trump’s Wall Was “Symbolic”

9/14/2017
(No author credited)


Minutes later, Fox & Friends‘ Steve Doocy floated the idea that the whole wall might have been “symbolic” and that maybe we would get to a point where “they won’t build the wall.”


Fox & Friends: Maybe Trump's wall was "symbolic" - Hot Air
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Donald J. Trump on August 31, 2016:

"We will build a great wall along the southern border," he said to cries of "build the wall" from the boisterous crowd. "And Mexico will pay for the wall."

He later said the wall would be "impenetrable, physical, tall, powerful, beautiful."

Trump doubles down on 'impenetrable, physical' wall during immigration speech

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I don't understand how a symbolic wall gets 10 feet higher. Or how Mexico pays for a symbolic thing.

 

[Adonia]

The bottom line with this issue is that Democrats care more about the non-citizen then they do about the actual citizens of this country. The 800k number is a lie because with "family reunification" the actual number of aliens allowed to stay or come here will be close to 3 million.

 

[Adonia]

It is more of a problem of American young people refusing to work.

And why is that? Gee, i wonder if the easy to get government payouts might have something to do with it.

 

[HankD]

And why is that? Gee, i wonder if the easy to get government payouts might have something to do with it.

Right, I had to wait until I was 62 to collect the SS system benefits I had paid into all of my working life.
As opposed to SSI (A kind of Federal Welfare System "a needs-based program for people with limited income and resources" (For those who don't know). https://www.ssa.gov/sf/FactSheets/aianssavsssifinalrev.pdf

Personally I am not opposed to this entitlement for those who are truly in need.
It is NOT for the able bodied who are abusers of the system.
http://www.reformssdinow.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Fraud-SSDI.pdf

HankD