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What Baptist Confession do You Rank as the Best?

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Kiffin, Mar 7, 2002.

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What Baptist Confession do You Rank as the Best?

  1. ABSTRACTS OF PRINCIPLES 1859

    9 vote(s)
    18.8%

  2. BAPTIST FAITH AND MESSAGE 1925, 1963

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. DOCTRINAL CONFESSION OF THE AMERICAN BAPTIST ASSOCIATION

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. JOHN SMYTH’S SHORT CONFESSION OF FAITH 1609

    4 vote(s)
    8.3%

  5. LONDON BAPTIST CONFESSION 1644

    13 vote(s)
    27.1%

  6. LONDON BAPTIST CONFESSION 1689

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%

  7. MIDLAND BAPTIST CONFESSION 1655

    9 vote(s)
    18.8%

  8. NEW HAMPSHIRE BAPTIST CONFESSION 1833

    4 vote(s)
    8.3%

  9. BAPTIST FAITH AND MESSAGE 2000

    8 vote(s)
    16.7%

  10. OTHER

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. jmbertrand

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    Sure thing! You can find the modern 1689 at Cumberland Valley Book Service for $3.50 each:

    http://www.cvbbs.com/

    The ISBN # is 0854799400

    Mark
     
    #21 jmbertrand, Apr 4, 2002
  2. TomVols

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    Thank you Mark.
     
    #22 TomVols, Apr 5, 2002
  3. Gayla

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    Never heard of any of them. [​IMG] :confused:
     
    #23 Gayla, Jul 11, 2002
  4. go2church

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    It will sound so superior and high-minded, but I really do believe in the concept of no creed but the Bible. I have not read every baptist creed (I know most baptists would prefer the term confession, but when it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and talks like a duck..it's a duck)and for the most part I don't have a problem with any of them. The very reason some(perhaps most) have never heard of them and the fact that by in large baptist churches have not adopted them I think proves the the point that most baptist churches actually live by no creed but the bible.
     
    #24 go2church, Jul 14, 2002
  5. crazycat

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    voted 1689 confession and fundamentalist!
     
    #25 crazycat, Jul 15, 2002
  6. Dr. Bob

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    Gotta go with the later London as well. As a reformed baptist it fits well with every area of theology (although it does NOT delineate every part of doctrine as I would like to see it).
     
    #26 Dr. Bob, Jul 15, 2002
  7. Peniel

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    The 1689 is the Baptist Confession I adhere to best. Every baptist should read it and study it.
     
    #27 Peniel, Jul 15, 2002
  8. MissAbbyIFBaptist

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    Personaly, I don't go with any confession. I base my beliefs and convictions on the Bible
    ~Abby :D [​IMG]
     
    #28 MissAbbyIFBaptist, Jul 16, 2002
  9. Dr. Bob

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    Of course, that is really what a confession is - just a summary doctrinal statement of Bible verses.

    As contrasted to a creed which tends toward interpretation of the Bible and fidelity to its creedal statement as opposed to the Bible.

    Baptists have always been a people of doctrinal statements known as "confessions", not "creeds".
     
    #29 Dr. Bob, Jul 17, 2002
  10. Aaron

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    It must be my poor eyesight :eek: , but I can't see any difference between a confession and a creed. [​IMG]

    To me it appears that a confession is just as interpretive as a creed.

    The Baptist Faith and Message, for instance.
     
    #30 Aaron, Jul 17, 2002
  11. rsr

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    A confession represents what it generally believed.

    A creed is a prescribed set of beliefs that must be ascribed to.

    Is it semantics? Maybe. But semantics matter; in this case, especially among Baptists.
     
    #31 rsr, Jul 17, 2002
  12. Aaron

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    Well then, the BF&M is a creed.
     
    #32 Aaron, Jul 17, 2002
  13. Kiffin

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    The word Creed means "I believe" just like a confession. Both are statements of faith, nothing more.
     
    #33 Kiffin, Jul 17, 2002
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    I agree with rsr that semantics matter, but this is a matter of semantics nonetheless. Baptists have tended to stay away from the word "creed," and have preferred nomenclature such as "articles of faith," "confession," and/or "doctrinal statement." But, as Kiffin notes, creed comes from "credo," which simply means "I believe." The problem is not in the terminology, but in how much a church, association or convention may choose to elevate these confessions/creeds/statements. So it doesn't matter what you call it - it's how you use it!

    As one who works through automonous churches at best, and loose association-fellowships at worst, the confession/creed business (such as that over the BF & M) is almost a non-issue to me. I wouldn't be terribly disturbed if the churches I work with have the Midlands, 1644 London, 1689 London, Philadelphia, New Hampshire or something they've developed for themselves. Since we are/would be acquainted personally with the churches with which we are/would be working, we would be aware of the positions and practice of those churches.
     
    #34 rlvaughn, Jul 17, 2002
  15. rsr

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    #35 rsr, Jul 17, 2002
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