What contributions have Catholics made...

[grahame]

As I attested, there were only churches in the first century. This ECF, Ignatius, not known for sound theology, was the first one to use the word "Catholic" not, of course, as an English word.

That is an interesting point. It reminds me of something I read years ago. That in the NT we only read of the "local church" and Paul's letters are addressed to the church "at". In Revelation we read "to the church at.... write..." We never seem to read of a "global" or "catholic" church. I don't think "catholic" is a New Testament word? God it seems always deals with "individual" churches rather than a "world church". Strange how these things come back to you.

 

[Matt Black]

And on the Day of Pentecost, the name of the church was "The First Baptist Church of Jerusalem."

Gosh, really? Can you direct me to the passage in Acts where it is thus referred to?

 

[Darron Steele]

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And on the Day of Pentecost, the name of the church was "The First Baptist Church of Jerusalem."

Are you serious?

 

[DHK]

Are you serious?

I have more evidence for that claim then Zenas has for the claim that it was the first Catholic Church.

 

[Darron Steele]

So you were not actually serious, in other words.

You were making a good point.

 

[billwald]

The Catholic Church, particularly in Ireland, maintained ancient (historical) knowledge after Rome collapsed and much of Europe returned to its pre-civilized ways.

 

[DHK]

So you were not actually serious, in other words.

You were making a good point.

When to the dismay of some, I consider "Baptist" the equivalent of "Biblical", yes I was trying to make a good point.

 

[Zenas]

I have more evidence for that claim then Zenas has for the claim that it was the first Catholic Church.

The problem is, DHK, that assertion of mine was not what your responded to. Here is how the exchange went:

Zenas:

Incidentally, the name of the church in Vatican City is The Catholic Church, NOT The Roman Catholic Church

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DHK:

And on the Day of Pentecost, the name of the church was "The First Baptist Church of Jerusalem."

 

[DHK]

The problem is, DHK, that assertion of mine was not what your responded to. Here is how the exchange went:

Yes you are right. I should have looked back before responding.
The point I was trying to make is simply that just because the church in the Vatican isn't called "Roman", that doesn't make it "not Roman." It is in Rome, per se, is it not??

And thus my statement:
"And on the Day of Pentecost, the name of the church was "The First Baptist Church of Jerusalem."
--The emphasis to point out that this was not a universal church; the RCC, but rather a local church founded with Christ as the head, and the Bible as the foundation. It had nothing to do with Catholic denominationalism.

 

[Melanie]

What a crazy question!

 

[Steven2006]

What exactly is the point to a thread like this? How is this edifying to anyone?

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Those are not contributions.

They did, however, contribute heavily to keeping the Bible extant in western Europe up to the 1500's.

I think you meant extinct. :laugh:

 

[lori4dogs]

I think you meant extinct. :laugh:

Of course you are joking. If it weren't for Catholic monks painstakingly making copy after copy of God's Holy Word there would have been precious few. Since there were no printing presses, Bible were kept in monastery's and churches as there were certainly not enough for every believer to have a copy for himself.

 

[lori4dogs]

When to the dismay of some, I consider "Baptist" the equivalent of "Biblical", yes I was trying to make a good point.

I'd love for you to visit one our local American Baptist Churches and then tell me you equivocate the word Baptist with Biblical. I guess only 'certain' Baptist churches are biblical? Not the ones that deny the existence of hell, promote universalism, question the virgin birth, promote same-sex marriage, etc.?

 

[DHK]

I'd love for you to visit one our local American Baptist Churches and then tell me you equivocate the word Baptist with Biblical. I guess only 'certain' Baptist churches are biblical? Not the ones that deny the existence of hell, promote universalism, question the virgin birth, promote same-sex marriage, etc.?

The American Baptist "denomination" has been a bastion of liberalism for years. I would even disown them as Baptists.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Of course you are joking. If it weren't for Catholic monks painstakingly making copy after copy of God's Holy Word there would have been precious few.

So you keep telling us.

 

[Johnv]

It's obvious that this thread has denegrated to the point where you're not allowed to say anything not negative about Catholics, lest you be vilified. Sad.

 

[Doubting Thomas]

It's good to know that I can take a long break from posting here and then come back to find that Roman Catholic bashing (or obsessing) is still in fashion. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Alive in Christ]

"How is this edifying to anyone?"

Any dear ones who are trapped in the clutches of Catholicism will consider it very edifying after they come to their senses and flee its tenticles.

 

[Matt Black]

So you keep telling us.

Er...because it's true.