What Do Tea Party Folk Want?

[rbell]

I was listening to a radio station from the States this morning on my computer. They interviewed four or five Tea Party supporters asking, "What does the Tea Party Want?" If the four had been in the same room there would have been a big fight ... each one had very different view of what the Tea Party is all about.

Same question to the Tea Party supporters on the BB ... what is it the Tea Party believes in and wants?

A buck gets you two that this radio station wasn't exactly "fair and balanced" when it came to tea party coverage.

Furthermore...the "tea party" is not a formal organization, but a grassroots movement. Of course there will be diversity of thought.

Hey...now that we mention it...isn't diversity a good thing to libbies? Why would that be a problem?

 

[Crabtownboy]

How does one even define happiness? How do you know when you are happy? What is happiness?

If you can answer those satisfactorily for yourself and you can identify if something makes you more happy, then by the same process of reasoning you can self-identify if something makes you "twice as happy."

Read the following:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/06/what-makes-us-happy/7439/

If, as someone suggested and is IMHO correct, there is great diversity in the Tea Party since it is supposedly not a formal organization ... what makes you think such a diverse group, if elected, can come together and do anything positive?

 

[Don]

I think we're forgetting something essential here: The "Tea Party" is not an organization. It's an idea.

In its most basic essence, it's the idea that government has gotten too big for its britches.

 

[targus]

If, as someone suggested and is IMHO correct, there is great diversity in the Tea Party since it is supposedly not a formal organization ... what makes you think such a diverse group, if elected, can come together and do anything positive?

Because they all share the same opinion that higher taxes and bigger government is the problem - not the solution.

BTW - I find your line of argument to be quite ironic - given that your Demoncrat party is nothing more than a collection of special interest groups that use our money to buy each other off to ensure their support for what each wants.

Witness the bribes to get the votes to get the healthscare bill passed.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Because they all share the same opinion that higher taxes and bigger government is the problem - not the solution.

What is your source saying they all agree on this.

BTW - I find your line of argument to be quite ironic - given that your Demoncrat party is nothing more than a collection of special interest groups that use our money to buy each other off to ensure their support for what each wants.

I am not arguing. I am asking, seeking opinion and information.

Witness the bribes to get the votes to get the healthscare bill passed.

Gee, no one gave me a bribe. Did someone send you a bribe?

 

[targus]

What is your source saying they all agree on this.?

You actually believe that some Tea Party supporters actually want higher taxes and more big government ?

I am not arguing. I am asking, seeking opinion and information..?

And yet when you are given an opinion your first response is to demand sources. :laugh:

Besides which - I already gave you a source.

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Mission.aspx

Gee, no one gave me a bribe. Did someone send you a bribe?

You voted on the healthscare bill?

You are a member of Congress?

Why do you want to pretend that you don't know about the vote buying to get the healthscare bill passed?

 

[rbell]

What is your source saying they all agree on this.

Show me one Tea Party "source" that doesn't favor smaller government. (Of course, it's pretty well-known that the Tea Party movement is a grassroots movement rather than an established organization...but don't let facts get in you rway. They rarely do, when you'r dealing with your political enemies).

I am not arguing. I am asking, seeking opinion and information.

I'll agree that you're seeking opinion. I seriously doubt you're seeking information. I'd be shocked if you'd let any positive information on the Tea Party ever see the light of day. Folks who promote smaller government and individual liberty bother you far too much for that.

Gee, no one gave me a bribe. Did someone send you a bribe?

OK, there's no way you could be that ignorant with regards to the Cornhusker Kickback, Louisiana Purchase, and all the other bribes that went along with the "healthcare act."

Many members of Congress sold their votes on this bill. You know it. I know it. Probably Sasha Obama knows it, for crying out loud. Let's drop the playing dumb act. It ain't working.

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

FWIW, studies show that it takes about 4-8 times as much money to make one twice as happy.

I think the idea of tying happiness and money is way off the topic. The reason high taxes are so bad is not so I can get more money, it is so I can get less government. High taxes are not killing us, government spending is. Every dollar the government spends results is less liberty for the citizens.

Double my taxes, take my money, but instead of letting the government spend it or give it to who they choose, lets just burn it. The result was be a deflation of the currency and everyone's remaining dollars would be worth more. Cutting taxes sounds great, but what we need is cutting the budget.

 

[rbell]

still waiting for Crabby's response regarding the "bribes" issue. You still want us to believe that Obamacare passed without votes being bought? Riiiiiiiiight.

 

[Crabtownboy]

still waiting for Crabby's response regarding the "bribes" issue. You still want us to believe that Obamacare passed without votes being bought? Riiiiiiiiight.

The thread is about the Tea Party ... not the Obama plan. That being true I considered your response so off topic and so illogical that it was not worth answering.

 

[here now]

Interestingly enough that is not what any of those interviewed said.

Hey Crabtownboy-
What did they say?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Hey Crabtownboy-
What did they say?

That was several days ago. Can't remember all of the answers. I do remember the first one said the Tea Party is totally against abortion. That was the only thing he was interested in. I believe another mentioned states rights. Can't remember the others just now. But none said what the others said.

That was why I decided to start the thread, to see how many ideas are held by members on the BB.

 

[glfredrick]

I think a lot of people miss the point of what the Tea Party is all about -- and though it is "things" and political actions, that is not the main thrust.

The Tea Party is about the same thing it was the first time around -- representation. Citizens are sick and tired of electing politicians who go to Washington and renege on the policies they ran on to get elected. Accurate and responsible representation of the citizens in the spirit of the Declaration and Constitution (government of, by, and for the people, who have inalienable rights endowed by their Creator) is the heart of the drive.

 

[billwald]

>The Tea Party is about the same thing it was the first time around -- representation. Citizens are sick and tired of electing politicians who go to Washington and renege on the policies they ran on to get elected.

How does the TP propose to change human nature?

 

[glfredrick]

>The Tea Party is about the same thing it was the first time around -- representation. Citizens are sick and tired of electing politicians who go to Washington and renege on the policies they ran on to get elected.

How does the TP propose to change human nature?

They don't... But, the candidates are being selected by the people rather than by the media or the Party. If candidates who change their votes or their views once in office are allowed to continue, then shame on the people who fail to enact the term limits that already exist (ballot box). That is exactly what is happening now. Human nature dictates that what one does once he or she will do again. Be honest always and always be honest. The converse has been the rule in politics for the most part.

Note that, for the most part, the TP candidates are the ones that "everyone" says cannot win -- before the fact. They are the candidates that in prior elections don't get past the primary season due to the push of media and money. This time that is not a factor. The people are voting principle instead of party and they've just discovered that they can actually win.