What Do You Feel About John Hagees' Teaching on the Jews...

[Yeshua1]

I've heard NV Peale speak 3 times, once at marble Collegiate Church. His ideas about positive thinking are worthwhile but not the gospel. Trump calls Marble Collegiate his home church but the church says he isn't active.

Donald Trump is not an active member, church says - CNNPolitics

Worse than that, his teachings were not biblical!

 

[robycop3]

I read the entire thread. I must remark on the civility of the members of this board. Through the years I've been on several Christian-type boards, none of which proved to actually be Christian. But most of what I've read on BB is authentic, or at least it is sincere.

But there are some mistaken doctrines I've run across in this particular thread. The Philistines, although the word sounds something like Palestine, were immigrants from the Island of Crete, near Greece. Cretans were known to be rough, rude, hostile, physically mighty, warrior-like and pagan.

Palestine was an ancient land known to be near the original garden of paradise. It is known for its red clay and early evening winds. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Philistines.

Palestinians and Jews are genetically related, as are Jews and Arabs. Abraham is father of both Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael is father to the Arabs, and Isaac is father to Jacob, who is father to the twelve tribes of Israel. The contention between the Jews and the Arabs is rooted in biblical scripture.

God said to Abraham, "Since you have asked, I will make Ishmael father of twelve mighty kingdoms. But My inheritance shall be given to Isaac." So, according to the Bible, the Jews have the Inheritance of God; they are the rightful heirs to God's Kingdom. Further on in scripture we find, "Cast out both slave girl and son together. For the son of the slave girl has no inheritance with the son of the free woman."

Abraham's wife, Sarah, is the legitimate wife: the free woman; the mother of Isaac, who is the father of Israel. Sarah's maidservant, Hagar, is the slave girl, mother of Ishmael, who is the father of the Arabs. Therefore, as God has said, His inheritance is with the Jews, not with the Arabs.

But they are genetically related.

"Palestine" is the LATIN name of Philistia, the land of Israel's long-time enemy. This name was applied by Hadrian to Judea when he exiled the Jews from it in 135-136 AD. & gave that land to the Philistines who had remained loyal to Rome. That exile is the source of the contention today between the Jew and Palestinian. However, GOD'S promise takes precedence over Hadrian's, so the land rightfully belongs to the Jews by God's earlier decree. (But that's NO excuse for the Jews to be cruel to the Pals, especially since they themselves were the objects of persecutions for over 1800 years! Two wrongs don't make a right!)

The Philistines, same as many Jews, have become mixed with other peoples, but GOD know's who's who! We see the Philistines' "fate" in Zech. 9. ashdod, once one of their principal cities, is now a JEWISH city, although a sizable Palestinian population remains, as Scripture sez. And there'll be some Pals greatly honored by the Jews, such as Kamil Hamad, who supplied the intel for the cellphone assassination of Yahya Ayyash, Hamas' chief bomb maker, in 1995.

I see little doubt that most who call themselves "Palestinians" now are descendants of the old Philistines, although many are well-mixed with Arabs, etc.

 

[HankD]

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Criticism of Israel, Zionism & Jews is NOT antisemitic.

Criticism of Roman Catholicism, Modernism & Christian Zionism, etc, is NOT antichristian.

Hmm not a good comparison,

Israel had God as its King thundering the law from the mountain.
Roman Catholicism the Pontifex Maximus issuing ex cathedra dogma from a throne in Rome.

HankD

 

[utilyan]

“I am writing to share with you some important news pertaining to my latest book In Defense of Israel. It has come to my attention that my choice of language and some of the interpretation being given that language in Chapter Ten has caused some confusion and actually led some readers to question whether I believe that Jesus is the Messiah. If people are reaching such a conclusion, then I have clearly failed to communicate my views as well as I should have.

I have decided to release a new edition of In Defense of Israel with an expanded Chapter Ten. The new version will make the same point as the prior one, but using language which cannot mislead anyone about my bedrock belief that Jesus was and is Lord, Savior and Messiah. “ --John Hagee


I think its a better practice to do your best to defend everyone as best as possible.