what do you think about gluttony?

Gluttony is a much more subtle sin than alcoholism. I was guilty of the sin of gluttony for 12 years. I had an eating disorder and would eat unbelievable quantities of food in periodic binges. I would then fast and exercise for two or three days to make up for it, and the cycle would begin again. At 5'4" tall and 115 pounds, no one would have guessed that I was guilty of gluttony, but I was. This addiction nearly destroyed my health and my marriage.

Don't ever let anyone tell you that having an alcoholic beverage is a sin and gluttony isn't. Having an alcoholic drink is not a sin; having a cookie is not a sin. Excessive consumption of either is a sin.

 

The simple fact of the matter is:
If your input of calories is greater than your output of calories you are on your way to becoming fat. You can take it from there.
DHK

 

Tim, I haven't had a piece of real apple pie in almost two years.

I've had gluten free apple pie and I gotta tell ya -- It AIN'T the same. Actually, it's just down right nasty!

soooooo next time, please eat a piece for me and tell me how good it was, pleeeaaaassssseeeeeee!

 

LeBuick! It's been years since my name (I see it right there "SHE") and precious were mentioned in the same sentence! This is a moment I'll cherish :tongue3:

(It's usually -- She can do and say the most ridiculous things! )

 

Now -- back to the topic at hand (or a feeble effort at return) . . .

Gluttony would be a lifestyle, would it not? AND the only way that I've noticed that lifestyle changes can occur is by personal self-will (well we all know how well that works) or with the help of the Holy Spirit after conviction that there is a need for change.

I've got some very rotund pictures of myself that I could share from about six years ago. I'll refrain, however. I knew I needed to lose weight for my health, but it wasn't until I felt convicted and it became a daily part of my spiritual life that I was able to loose the weight.

I still struggle with it too btw, it's never gone. We do have to have food to live so we can't go cold turkey.

Now, is there a difference between over eating and gluttony? -- I think there is. Just as there is a difference between self indulgence and hedonism. I can over eat and not be a glutton. I can certainly over eat occassionally and it not hurt anything except my intestinal tract. And really, does anyone need desert? No, but the cook got a great deal of pleasure in making it and sharing it. I've had a great deal of pleasure in eating one or two and sharing that fellowship (or shop as the case may be ).

 

Right

How dare anyone have the gall to tell us that drinking alcohol is a sin and eating more than our bodies need is a sin!

Just because the Word of God forbids us to partake of alcohol. Just because the Word of God tells us to refrain from eating too much. What do those prophets, kings and Apostles know anyway? Who are they to tell us how to run our lives. They don't know what we have to put up with. They don't live in our time.

Hogwash!

I bet if Jesus Christ came back today and stood on your door and told you drinking alcohol beverage was a sin, I am afraid many of you would slam the door in His face calling him a legalist, or an idiot, or some other word that would be derogatory to His nature and character.

 

Whoa! I've got to take exception to this. Not because you aren't entitled to your opinion and interpretation of Scripture, because you are.

BUT this kind of statement impunes the character of the person you are addressing. AND to that I do take exception. People are not going to change their minds to your way of thinking because you speak to them in this manner.

 

OK! I get it, now. (Glad your friend does, as well.) Thanks! He means like Charles Haddon Spurgeon or Dwight L. Moody. Oh, and don't forget Spurgeon's cigar!

Ed

 

I would like to add that all obesity is not a result of gluttony. Genetcs play a bigger role than most people recognize.

 

.....so just out of interest as I've been on this schtoopid diet for 2 months or so and hungry for most of that time does that now make me the holiest one here?

(.....although sharp increase in bad temper probably cancels most of that .....oh well :smilewinkgrin

 

Pete, I was on my last diet for two months! I lost eight weeks!

Ed

 

When losing weight, I eat 5-6 small meals throughout the day. Trust me, not only are you not hungry, you get tired of eating every couple hours. This does, work in addition to limiting (not eliminating) carbs, and choosing the right kind of carbs. Protein intake is crucial if you are working out and exercising daily.

Sorry to derail the thread...that was the personal trainer training me coming out...

 

Not for me, at least. When dropping weight I use a formula I created called 100/50/50. I eat my bodyweight in protein (215g), half of that in carbs...the kind of carbs make a huge difference... (100-150g), and half of that fat (50-75g). Once the weight starts coming off, I adjust the carbs upwards and the fat down. This is not for the average person, as this was my body building routine following a gain cycle. Divided amongst 6 meals daily, and that's more food than you realize. This has worked well for me, and has kept me from "starving" while losing weight.

 

Good for you, bike riding is an excellent source of exercise.

On the other hand ...
we've GOT to find you a hobby, corndoggy! You are predisposed with things you cannot control.
IMHO, you could spend your opinion energy doing something worthwhile ... like reading your Bible, or praying. I try to apply this to my own life.