What do you think about the quran?

[El_Guero]

Bob,

Like so many other posts - this was a Great Post!

Wayne

You take 2Cor 11 about Satan as an Angel of light and his servants as ministers of light and then ask "to what level of automated control did Satan go with Mohammed to get the SAYINGs arranged and promoted"?

How are mere mortals supposed to know exactly how far Satan went in controlling Mohammed?? It is not like we have Satan's diary.

Joseph Smith, Mohammed, Hitler, Richard Dawkins... how in the world are we supposed to know "the very level" at which Satan manipulated them???

In Christ,

Bob

 

[Chemnitz]

I know I am entering late but what I think of the Koran can be summed up into a few words
It is a work of the Devil for the purpose of decieving people.

 

[Rufus_1611]

Here's one thing that is good about the Qu'ran...there aren't 100+ English versions of it.

 

[Eric B]

xdx, just wanting to reinforce my original response about the Muslim view of Jesus. Here is a quote from a Muslim author.

Revered Figures in Islam: "Virgin Mary" & "Jesus Christ"
By Noor Al Haqq
Jan 22, 2005, 10:56

The title may seem strange to some, and maybe unbelievable to others but that's a very true fact about Islam. Two of the most revered, loved and respected figures in the heart of every Muslim are Virgin Mary peace be upon her and her blessed son Jesus Christ peace be upon him. In fact, no individual can be a Muslim unless he/she believes in Jesus peace be upon him and in his miraculous birth from the purest of all women, and that he is the Word of God and a Spirit from Him and that he is the Messiah to the people of Israel. He is honoured in this world and in the hereafter, and he is one of those brought nearest to Allah.

The Quran tells a lot of wonderful things about this great Prophet and about the purity of his mother. In fact out of the 114 chapters of the Noble Quran , 9 of them carry the name of individuals, and out of these 9 there is a chapter titled Mary; Maryam in Arabic. No woman had more attention in the Quran than Mary. The chapter that carries her name is one of the most beautiful chapters of the Quran that tells us about the life of this pious woman who dedicated her life in worship to Her Lord, and who bore one of God's greatest Prophets and Messengers in a miraculous birth that stands as a sign of God's power and that He only need to say something 'Be' and it is.

Just goes along with the end-times interpreters who predict some union between Islam and Catholicism, which I always found far fetched, since the two have always been so antogonistic to each other; but who knows.

 

[Eric B]

Thanks everybody,
but what do you think is the quran? Is it a book written by a confused,disturbed person (Mohammed) who also might have had some good ideas, which resulted in verses which sound good, or is the quran a product of Satan and he dictated it to Mohammed and Mohammed could not include his own opinion?

The Qur'an was supposed to be dictated by an angel (claiming to be Gabriel), and there is no reason to dispute that. Isaiah tells us not to listen to every spirit, but "to the Law and the Testimony; if they go not according to this Word, there is not light in them", and John reiterated "try the spirits, because not every spirit is from God". Muhammad couldn't read, and this is supposed to be a proof of the Qu'ran's divine inspiration, but what it actually proves is that Muhammad could not obey those scriptures telling us to try the spirit by the Word. He took the angel's word for it, and thought that what this spirit was telling him lined up with the Bible. When later Muslims found that it didn't, they had to come up with the idea that the Bible had been tampered with somewhere along the line. (and making it worse is that both Jews and Christians of that time and place were corrupt in doctrine and practice, so a lot of Muhammad's criticisms stuck). But the man could not test that angel, so he was vulnerable, and deceived.

 

[DHK]

I find in the introduction of my Quran, written of course by a Muslim scholar, some of the history of Mohammed, and how the Quran came to be. Mohammed was prone to have visions. He was in a wooded area, alone, when he had such a vision. Previously he attributed all such visions to demons. But his wife, Khadijah, a Jew, convinced him that these visions were not of demonic origin but from God. Thus in this vision he was convinced that he saw Gabriel--the leading angel of God, who told him to write these words. Now Mohammed was an illiterate man. He was subject to trances.
His followers knew that he was subject to trances and wrote down what he said when he was in such trances. Thus the Quran was actually written down by his disciples, and then committed to memory by many of them. After a battle many manuscripts of the Quran had been lost. (This took place after Mohammed's death). And Caliph Omar realized that one Quran had to be made authentic. He therefore gathered all the manuscripts of the Quran together, and with those who had portions of the Quran memorized, put together the Quran such as we have today. He then burned all other manuscripts. Thus the Quran that exists today is not even the original Quran. They don't have the original manuscripts even as we don't.
The fact that he admitted that he thought that they were from demons, and that his followers got the information from times when he was in a trance points to the fact that the Quran was indeed inspired by Satan and not of God.

 

[LeBuick]

The fact that he admitted that he thought that they were from demons, and that his followers got the information from times when he was in a trance points to the fact that the Quran was indeed inspired by Satan and not of God.

Everytime I see this story I picture Mohammud having a book for sale regarding his Visions when his wife says, "they'll sell better if you say they're from god!" So he puts a couple of rocks in his crack pipe and have some guys write down everything he says.

His disciple "two, did you say two honorable messanger Mohammud"

Mohammud while in trance; Did I say two, you better put three just in case"