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What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

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Reynolds

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On another thread it was asked about doctrine : (post # 19)

I said this:
Charlie -
As I look at my answer - it might appear I disagree with you .
Quite the opposite - I do agree with you.
Looks like I was playing "Devils advocate"

So what doctrines would actually keep us from true salvation.
how about if a person did not believe in Lake of Fire or the Devil?
A person believes baptism is necessary to complete salvation
A person believes you are not truly saved until you speak in tongues?
I believe the “doctrine” of “Repeat this prayer after me and you will be saved.” has kept more people out of heaven than any modern doctrine. (Assuming I believed the elect can be kept out of heaven. Which I don’t.)
 
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Ben1445

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no answers to my questions tough guy….again, what’s your service record to your country? Haven’t got one so you officiate … typical

You talk a big game. But you started the not answering trend in this discussion.
When you give a satisfactory definition of Christian Nationalist, I will answer your questions.
In the mean time, I’m not going to give you the opportunity to take my biography and create a new definition.
Are you a Christian communist? Is that why you don’t like Christian nationalists?

I will supply you a common definition.
(I should hope I don’t need to define Christian, so I won’t)
Nationalist - One who advocates national unity and independence;

Since you don’t like national unity, along with your cable news network, I will leave you to your communist propaganda. Unless you can provide me some terrible definition that you use for Christian nationalist, I will continue to assume that you are merely parroting the things you hear on tv.
 

Ben1445

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I believe the “doctrine” of “Repeat this prayer after me and you will be saved.” has kept more people out of heaven than any modern doctrine. (Assuming I believed the elect can be kept out of heaven. Which I don’t.)
We have different definitions of elect. But I don’t believe that the elect can be taken out of the Father’s hand either.
Beside that, “repeat a prayer and you are good” is not a better strategy than writing prayers (for someone else) dipping them in the mud and throwing them at a Buddha statue, hoping they will stick so your prayer will be answered.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You talk a big game. But you started the not answering trend in this discussion.
When you give a satisfactory definition of Christian Nationalist, I will answer your questions.
In the mean time, I’m not going to give you the opportunity to take my biography and create a new definition.
Are you a Christian communist? Is that why you don’t like Christian nationalists?

I will supply you a common definition.
(I should hope I don’t need to define Christian, so I won’t)
Nationalist - One who advocates national unity and independence;

Since you don’t like national unity, along with your cable news network, I will leave you to your communist propaganda. Unless you can provide me some terrible definition that you use for Christian nationalist, I will continue to assume that you are merely parroting the things you hear on tv.
You are so frigging funny…first, I don’t watch TVso strike one. Next who told you that I do not like national unity. That’s an opinion that you’re flying that has no relevance , the mark of someone who delights in speaking out of his butt hole. (Strike two).

Third, your biography, what one is that? I asked you straight forward questions but you resist answering. You must not be proud of the results since you hesitate to disclose. ( strike 3)

Listen, I seriously don’t care frankly. Your not even clever in your responses… in fact you’re a boor, which for your edification means an ill mannered person… which fits you perfectly

Frankly I don’t care what you think, your commentary’s, your opinions etc. However I do have a sense of who you are from your inane discussion points. I do have a suggestion for you genius, go and take a flying leap for yourself. We are done here.
 

Ben1445

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You are so frigging funny…first, I don’t watch TVso strike one. Next who told you that I do not like national unity.
You asked if Christian Nationalists were credible? I assumed you knew what the words you were using meant.
That’s an opinion that you’re flying that has no relevance , the mark of
(Crass comment removed)
Third, your biography, what one is that? I asked you straight forward questions but you resist answering.

I also asked you a straight forward question. I asked you your definition before you began asking me anything.
What is a Christian Nationalist. You resist answering and accuse me of what you are first guilty of.
I have no respect for that.
You must not be proud of the results since you hesitate to disclose. ( strike 3)
Using your logic, you are ashamed of not knowing what a Christian nationalist is when you used the term.
Listen, I seriously don’t care frankly. Your not even clever in your responses… in fact you’re a boor, which for your edification means an ill mannered person… which fits you perfectly
Speaking of ill mannered, have you read your own disgusting comments?
Frankly I don’t care what you think, your commentary’s, your opinions etc. However I do have a sense of who you are from your inane discussion points. I do have a suggestion for you genius, go and take a flying leap for yourself. We are done here.
You don’t know anything about me. I haven’t told you anything about me. That is your big complaint.
And I just embarrassed you. Now you are upset and taking your ball and going home.
 

Salty

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SPEAKING AS AN ADMINASTATOR.

Ben, if you were not able to see it , Earth, Wind, Fire has put you on ignore.

Now, I just saw several posts that were testing the limits of Christian love.
Granted, we may disagree on certain issues and this thread is an excellent example.

But lets be careful what we say. and how we say it.

I have closed this thread - due to the above statement and since it is past the normal
time to stop (exceeding 90 posts.)

Please do not start a new thread on this subject until 30 days.
 
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