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What Does It Mean To Be Dead In Trespasses and Sins?

skypair

Active Member
Jarthur001 said:
They cannot hear..meaning understand their need...in order to have that choice....BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF GOD.

its pretty clear to me.
Yeah, it's clear to me too. They had turned their faith over to Satan, Ja. They were committed, like you are, FROM seeing the truth! There was no longer even any curiousity for the truth left.

You know "FATHER, the devil" means something, Ja. Not even you would think that someone who had gone "over the hill" would come back alive, right?

skypair
 

Jarthur001

Active Member
skypair said:
Yeah, it's clear to me too. They had turned their faith over to Satan, Ja. They were committed, like you are, FROM seeing the truth! There was no longer even any curiousity for the truth left.

You know "FATHER, the devil" means something, Ja. Not even you would think that someone who had gone "over the hill" would come back alive, right?

skypair
Indeed....

As are ALL men. :)


Romans 3
10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

And this my friend is called dead.
 

Brother Bob

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Romans 1: 14: I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.
15: So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
16: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17: For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19: Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20: For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
For the life of me, I do not know how anyone could just excuse this scripture. I don't see where you would need any other scripture to prove the dead in sin knew God and Glorified Him not as God?
 

Jarthur001

Active Member
Brother Bob said:
For the life of me, I do not know how anyone could just excuse this scripture. I don't see where you would need any other scripture to prove the dead in sin knew God and Glorified Him not as God?
Hello Bro Bob,

Its not that mankind cannot know about God. The Devil knows about God. The Devil believes there is a God. Knowing about God and believing there is a God as you know is not salvation.

The Devil will never call God the Lord and King of his life, because he does not understand that he needs to. The Devil in bound to have his own way. Nature man is the same way.

Being "dead"( in my view), means that natural man does not understand their need to have God. It is the sin nature that binds them. Man cannot server two masters. Nature man loves sin to much....is controlled by sin my there own lust to have their desires that they will never chose God unless Holy Spirit steps in.

Does man have all that he needs to believe? Yes. The passage you posted says this. You could also add Heb 1 to this.

God gave mankind the truth...but
"There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God"
 
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