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It ONLY means that some one came up with a labeling system to denigrate other believers for their stand on the preservation of God's Word to the English speaking people.Originally posted by MRCoon:
I don't want a version discourse this is just an indirect poll of what it means to you to be KJV Only. I read the thread in the Bible Versions area about the 4 KJVO's and so was curious what people who consider themselves fundamentalist thought of the moniker KJVO.
PLEASE NO ATTACKING A VERSION OR ANOTHERS BELIEF.....THIS IS NOT FOR ARGUMENTS!!
In my opinion, Sanderson goes overboard and is very radical.Originally posted by webdog:
Read one of Sanderson's essays about KJVO. He describes to me what KJVO-ism is.
It ONLY means that some one came up with a labeling system to denigrate other believers for their stand on the preservation of God's Word to the English speaking people.Originally posted by Salamander:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MRCoon:
I don't want a version discourse this is just an indirect poll of what it means to you to be KJV Only. I read the thread in the Bible Versions area about the 4 KJVO's and so was curious what people who consider themselves fundamentalist thought of the moniker KJVO.
PLEASE NO ATTACKING A VERSION OR ANOTHERS BELIEF.....THIS IS NOT FOR ARGUMENTS!!
What does that have to do with the OP? and just what do you mean by wrong-book-ies? Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
Nobody asked, but I thought I'd chime in anyway;
What does using the HCSB (Christian Standard
Bible /Holman, 2003/ ) mean to you?
To me it means;
1. That I can know that I have God's pure, unadulterated, perfectly preserved, Holy words
In 21st Century (2001-2100) English.
2. That through those very words, I can know my Creator.
3. That through those words I can know that my God is reconciled through my Redeemer's blood shed for me.
4. That I have total assurance and perfect peace that those very words are the EXACT words of God.
5. That I can know (for my Bible tells me so) that there will be some who will try to shake my faith in those words; whether those doubt-sowers be of the household of faith or of the world.
6. That I can know with whom I should have fellowship with. (Can two walk together except they be agreed?)
7. That I can know that I am right (or not) with God.
8. That through those very words of God, I can know how to behave myself in this evil world.
9. That through those very words I can know what is wrong (or right) with MOST people I encounter.
In summation:
Using the HCSB to me means being Bible Only
in all of my faith and practice.
This isn't what it means:
That I have the moral highground and
can browbeat my wrong-book-ies.![]()
I do find it interesting that the translators, even though they may have been paedobaptist, did not weave their beliefs on that subject into the translation. That there ought to tell people that they stuck to the text throughout the translating of the TR to the KJB.Originally posted by AntennaFarmer:
Here is what KJVO means to me:
1. THe King James version has stood the test of time.
2. The translators of the KJV were guided by The Holy Ghost (Who cares if they were paedobaptists.... They believed in Jesus!)
3. The KJV is God's Word in english.
4. As a general rule one uses only the KJV for reading and study.
Here is what I think:
A. The KJV is a good english translation.
B. There are several of bad translations now.
C. You don't need to translate from the KJV to other languages. You work from hebrew and greek.
D. In principle, God could guide another group of english translators.... I am just not sure if I have seen that yet.
E. I think it is strange to have so many arguments over jots and tittles if they aren't really important (as is argued by some).
F. I think it is strange that some would argue that God has nothing to do with translation while they are convinced that God has a hand in their own daily lives.
Absolutely nothing, since I ain't.What does it mean to you to be KJVO?
Oh, what a wish, bud. What a wish!PLEASE NO ATTACKING A VERSION OR ANOTHERS BELIEF.....THIS IS NOT FOR ARGUMENTS!!
To lump every defender of the King James Bible into one monolithic camp and to pretend that all believe the same thing and march to the same piper's tune in regard to Bible texts and versions is either ignorance or dishonesty. It is one thing to criticize the perceived errors and extremism and peculiarities of some individual personality. That is easy to do inasmuch as every member of the human race is peculiar and prone to mistakes! It is quite another thing to pretend that all defenders of the King James Bible are followers of some man. Many, though, are guilty of doing this very thing. They are caught up with the personalities of the movement and refuse to face the real issues
</font>[/QUOTE]Let's revise, shall we...Originally posted by Linda64:
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/kingjamesonlyism.htm
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> To lump every defender of the King James Bible into one monolithic camp and to pretend that all believe the same thing and march to the same piper's tune in regard to Bible texts and versions is either ignorance or dishonesty. It is one thing to criticize the perceived errors and extremism and peculiarities of some individual personality. That is easy to do inasmuch as every member of the human race is peculiar and prone to mistakes! It is quite another thing to pretend that all defenders of the King James Bible are followers of some man. Many, though, are guilty of doing this very thing. They are caught up with the personalities of the movement and refuse to face the real issues