xdisciplex said:
Is it really that easy to spot a false prophet?
1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God:
Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
Then you could simply ask Benny Hinn and all the others this question:
Is Christ come in the flesh?
And if they answer yes then they are for real if not then they are not.
But what is supposed to happen if they are false prophets? Are they supposed to explode or what? Will they start to scream and run against a wall when you ask them this question? What is supposed to happen? I don't get it. Is a false prophet totally unable to answer to such a question? Will he not be able to open his mouth? But if even a false prophet can simply lie and answer yes then what is this whole test good for?
This is once again a verse which I don't understand at all.
no time to explainright now but "in the flesh" means Jesus came with our human nature and with that overcame all sin that He might give us His perfect obedience and render us capable of overcoming sin ourselves though we have sinful flesh as well.
Rom:1:3: Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh
Rom:8:3: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh
read and understand what in the flesh means....
Romans 8:
1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2: For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5: For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6: For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8: So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
opposite of Roman Catholicism but most Protestants dont realize this. Catholic teaching on the nature of Christ and the Virgin Mary is "different" they think Jesus was able to overcome but that we cannot... thats why all the sacraments, really... you are touched by a sacrament and suddenly become "holy" because of it, rather than actually having a transformed life, ridding of sin.
The "man of sin" son of perdition... man of lawlessness (not keeping the Law of God)
2 Thess. 2:
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4: Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[carrying on in the tradition of Lucifer when he wanted to be in God's place]
It doesnt just mean what people try to claim it means, namely to just believe that Jesus came here in human form, the devils already believe that, remember? and tremble
the difference between the devil and you is supposed to be that you are no longer at enmity against God, His enemy, but now that you obey His Law
this is the spirit of Anti-Christ... the man of sin... substituting himself in the place of Christ, thats what Anti-Christ means. deceptively pretending to be the real Christ. too bad so many Christians fall for it with their "only believe" doctrine, same as that of the Nicolaitanes... but Jesus hated their DEEDS and He called them LIARS [Revelation 2:2]. The Nicolaitanes were disciples of Nicolas, the Gnostics. Gnosticism came into the early Church that is why John always fought against it saying:
1Jn:2:4: He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
the LIAR once again, he who claims to love God but doesnt keep His Law:
1Jn:4:20: If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
Gnosticism teaches that our deeds or behavior doesnt matter, gee where have I heard that before? in Christian pulpits.
These "Christians" do not realize they are following in the footsteps of the Gnostics and the Spiritualism/New Age Movement
1Timothy 4:1: 'Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils' Spiritualist teachers set aside the Law of God. They teach that the sinful, erring nature of man is the only standard of character, and that 'They affect great pity for minds so narrow, weak, and superstitious as to acknowledge the claims of God and obey the requirements of His law.' -Great Controversy pg. 560 And now, let's see what top New Age Personality, David Spangler has to say about the Law of God:
'The evolution of the race is for man to learn not how to obey the law but how to be the law. There is a vast, vast difference. If you are the law it means that you are at one with the whole. For divine law simply exists. When a person understands this, then he begins to have that attunement, when he is the law, he is not going to act in any way that will disturb or distort the true balance of the true wholeness... The New Age is an age where there is needed that group of people who through attunement can be self-governing, act as the law, as the divine, as the right, as the love.'-David Spangler, 'Relationship and Identity', pg. 89,91,93
As you can see, New Agers see 'keeping-the Law' as doing everything that they can to 'keep in tune with the Great Universal All', and not in keeping God's Ten Commandment Law. They also believe that they themselves are 'The Law'. David Spangler, New Ager, makes it even clearer in this next statement about how he really feels about God's Law:
'We can take all the Scriptures and all the teachings, and all the tablets and all the Laws, and all the marshmallows and have a jolly good bonfire and marshmallow roast, because that's all they are worth. Once you are the law, once you are the truth, you do not need it externally represented for you.' -David Spangler, 'Emergence: Rebirth of the Sacred', Findhorn Publications, pg. 144
Yet again, gee, where have I heard THAT before? taught from Christian pulpits, thats where.
Isaiah 30:
[FALSE PROPHETS, same as they always were]
8: Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
9: That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
10: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
11: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Deuteronomy 13:1-8
1: If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2: And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3: Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4:Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5: And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
8: Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him
Isa:8:20: To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Claudia
