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What happens if a christian deliberately sins?

David Michael Harris

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xdisciplex said:
Does this mean that such sins will not be forgiven?
Does this mean that the only sins which a christian may do, which can also be forgiven, are sins which happen accidentally? :confused:
Sins where there is no time between being tempted and sinning, but sins which simply happen?
But if you are first tempted to sin and then you're wrestling with the temptation and then give in then you basically decide to give in, right? Because if you didn't decide to give in you also wouldn't sin. But as soon as you decide that you'll give in then doesn't it become deliberate in this moment? Does this not mean that most of the sins which we do are deliberate sins? Or do you really never give in to any kind of temptations and the only sins which you do are sins which happen in an instant?

God disciplines thoses He loves, if your not disciplined then your not His.

Christians do sin, is not all sin 'willful'?

Discipline is not nice at the time but afterwards produces the peacable fruit of righteousness. God is the Perfect Father and He knows how to deal with us all!
 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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A 'deliberate' sin is just another sin. All sin is deliberate; it is the obedience of one's (the 'old man's) will to one's (the 'old man's) will. Original sin was deliberate, so all subsequent sin of whomever - even of the regenerate! If ALSO against one's will, sin is the deliberation of someone saved by grace; it ALSO remains a sin forgiven already through grace alone.
 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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"... the blasphemy against the Spirit ..."

When is sin no more just sin but 'blasphemy against the Spirit'? When it is sin that "shall not be forgiven". It is not the grade of sin that determines whether it is 'the blasphemy against the Spirit', but the person -- he who is not forgiven his sins because judged by God unforgiveable, shall not receive forgiveness for his sins.
 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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It is not the grade of sin or one's deliberation to commit a sin that makes it 'the blasphemy against the Spirit' or unforgiveable --- but the reprobate's irreversable nature and determination.
 

Gerhard Ebersoehn

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'Grade', "degree", or "type" - makes no difference --- sin is sin. It is the man who is not forgiven his sins that dies --- not his sin unless with him.
 

Brother Bob

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1 John, chapter 5



"1": Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

"2": By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

"3": For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

"4": For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
 
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