What if a Christian Commits Suicide?

[Allan]

My apologies Allan . It is annoying to be misquoted so apologies to Friend of Spurgeon as well.:tonofbricks:

Oh come on - Smile or laugh :laugh:
Sometimes it 'just happens' :thumbs:

 

[FriendofSpurgeon]

My apologies Allan . It is annoying to be misquoted so apologies to Friend of Spurgeon as well.:tonofbricks:

No worries. Being "burnt at the stake" is a figure of speech.

 

[donnA]

Let's say a Christian, has been a member of the Church for over 20 years... feed the poors, widows and lived a very clean life and was even on the worship team. His wife passes away and all of a sudden he decides to end his life.

Would he still go to heaven? raying:

Isn't the real question, do you believe in salvation by grace or works?
going to heaven has nothing to do with how long you've been a church member, or how many good works you've done. It depends only on Jesus. Is Jesus able to save and keep those who are His, or is He not able?
The question then becomes not about the person, but about Jesus, is He able, is He sufficent for our redemption? Because Jesus said He hasn't lost a single one God has given Him, are we to believe Him? If Jesus is true, and what the bible says about Him is true, then the question in the op about the man is moot. Salvation, heaven or hell, depends not on the man, but Jesus.

 

[Alive in Christ]

On a related note, we have a situation over on the General Baptist Discussions board.

A posting member here..."ajg1959" has started a thread and shared that he has decided to commit suicide.

Several of us have posted sharing testimonies of how God can bring people out of any bad situation, and are encouraging him to not do it.

Those in charge here have traced the IP adress to the 606 area code in Kentucky, and have contacted the authorities.

Please be in prayer for ajg1959 during this time.

:godisgood:

 

[donnA]

Those in charge here have traced the IP adress to the 606 area code in Kentucky, and have contacted the authorities.

well, if we knew where he was I'd drive there, even though I'm all the way over in the 270 area code.

 

[billwald]

What other sicknesses might God send people to Hell for having?

 

[ReformedBaptist]

I would say you do not know. Any Christian contemplating murdering themselves needs to consider their relationship with Christ to begin with. They may not be saved. No murderer has any inheritance in the kingdom of God.

 

[rbell]

I would say you do not know. Any Christian contemplating murdering themselves needs to consider their relationship with Christ to begin with. They may not be saved. No murderer has any inheritance in the kingdom of God.

Careful...we get back into "what sins can a Christian not commit?" and then we get to the Catholic theology of "what if I die with unforgiven sin?"

Also...you said, "you don't know," but then your last sentences sounded like you did know...I think your first sentence was best said, with a period on the end.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Careful...we get back into "what sins can a Christian not commit?" and then we get to the Catholic theology of "what if I die with unforgiven sin?"

Also...you said, "you don't know," but then your last sentences sounded like you did know...I think your first sentence was best said, with a period on the end.

Only an independant fundamentalist could read my statement and feel worried about Roman Catholic theology. :laugh:

 

[rbell]

Only an independant fundamentalist could read my statement and feel worried about Roman Catholic theology. :laugh:

Now THAT'S a first...I've been called everything else, but an indy-fundy...well, I'll add that to my collection.

Let me clarify...

I thought your earlier response carried a hint of the idea espoused by a couple of folks on here in times past: "you better not die before having every single sin confessed"...which leads to, "if you die without having sin A confessed, you head south."

Catholics deal with this by Last Rites.

Not accusing you of such, but I'm showing the end of the path, if we're not careful with our terms...

 

[Palatka51]

Now THAT'S a first...I've been called everything else, but an indy-fundy...well, I'll add that to my collection.

Let me clarify...

I thought your earlier response carried a hint of the idea espoused by a couple of folks on here in times past: "you better not die before having every single sin confessed"...which leads to, "if you die without having sin A confessed, you head south."

Catholics deal with this by Last Rites.

Not accusing you of such, but I'm showing the end of the path, if we're not careful with our terms...

All of us will commit one last sin before we meet our Master.

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

However, knowing Him as our Personal Savior, He has promised us that He will remove that one as well, even though we have not confessed it.

1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

:jesus: has it handled. :applause:

 

[rbell]

All of us will commit one last sin before we meet our Master.

However, knowing Him as our Personal Savior, He has promised us that He will remove that one as well, even though we have not confessed it.


:jesus: has it handled. :applause:

I fully agree.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Now THAT'S a first...I've been called everything else, but an indy-fundy...well, I'll add that to my collection.

Let me clarify...

I thought your earlier response carried a hint of the idea espoused by a couple of folks on here in times past: "you better not die before having every single sin confessed"...which leads to, "if you die without having sin A confessed, you head south."

Catholics deal with this by Last Rites.

Not accusing you of such, but I'm showing the end of the path, if we're not careful with our terms...

Not sure where confession comes in to what I stated...but ok. :laugh:

 

[SpiritualMadMan]

On a related note, we have a situation over on the General Baptist Discussions board.

A posting member here..."ajg1959" has started a thread and shared that he has decided to commit suicide.

Several of us have posted sharing testimonies of how God can bring people out of any bad situation, and are encouraging him to not do it.

Those in charge here have traced the IP adress to the 606 area code in Kentucky, and have contacted the authorities.

Please be in prayer for ajg1959 during this time.

:godisgood:

I am so sorry to hear about the above.

I've been there. Wanting to die so bad. But, in the back of my mind I always knew that my life didn't belong to me anymore and that having been bought with a price I had no right to "touch" God's Property.

I also figured that, as it wasn't my life anymore, I might fail in any bid and be trapped in a non functional body until a time of His choosing.

Not a pleasant thought at all.

I could share all the gory details of betrayal and knives in the back and hurtful words... But, the bottom line is that in spite of the church... God preserved life, made provision for our needs and brought us through it. It was NOT easy. But... He *WAS* faithful.

As regards to going to heaven if you commit suicide. The Pentecostal in me tends towards the no answer...

But, I also know my state of mind at the time of contemplation...

Sometimes despair so deep that rational thought was non-existant...

At other times so much anger that suicide would "getting even with God".

Now, dying in active rebellion... Not so sure...

But, I know He is a jealous God and He really loved me and fought for me...

Mike Sr.

 

[ccdnt]

A person's belief in “the security of the believer” will a lot of times determine his belief on what happens to a professing Christian that commits suicide. If OSAS is true, then if one believes it is possible for a Christian to commit suicide, then the person is still saved after he commits suicide. Some believe the Bible teaches it is possible for a Christian to fall away from Christ and return to a lost state. If that is the correct position, then if a person that was a professing Christian committed suicide, there would be the possibility that the person had fallen away from Christ and was no longer saved (this would be where the act of suicide would be possible evidence that the person was no longer saved and not the cause of the person becoming lost). There are also those that believe that certain sins, murder being one, that if left unrepented, will cause a Christian to no longer be saved. If this is the correct position, then since suicide is self-murder, and one that a person cannot repent of (if the death is instant), then the person would die lost.