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What in the world is happening to Christian churches?

Martin Marprelate

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The guy goes on a bit, but in Britain, what is killing the big denominations - Anglican, Church of Scotland, Methodist, United Reformed, Baptist Union - is liberalism. If you can't trust the Bible, if Jesus is just another teacher, if there's no hell, why on earth would anyone bother to go to church? Those denominations are in free-fall, but Bible-believing congregations are increasing rapidly.
I heard the current Archbishop of Canterbury speak some years ago at a meeting of the Bible Society, when she was a minor Bishop. She managed to suggest that the Bible was very nice without saying she believed any of it.
 

Ascetic X

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The guy goes on a bit, but in Britain, what is killing the big denominations - Anglican, Church of Scotland, Methodist, United Reformed, Baptist Union - is liberalism. If you can't trust the Bible, if Jesus is just another teacher, if there's no hell, why on earth would anyone bother to go to church? Those denominations are in free-fall, but Bible-believing congregations are increasing rapidly.
I heard the current Archbishop of Canterbury speak some years ago at a meeting of the Bible Society, when she was a minor Bishop. She managed to suggest that the Bible was very nice without saying she believed any of it.
Exactly. Mainstream churches near me (Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Nazarene) are all woke, liberal, socialist, pro-LGBTQ. They do not preach the gospel and rarely quote the Bible. They seem more like positive thinking seminars with jokes, personal anecdotes, trivial illustrations, and sports analogies sprinkled in.

Congregations put up with it, like they do not know where else to go and it is a familiar setting now. Horrifying.
 

Martin Marprelate

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MM, perhaps you could translate this for us:
What happened?
No. The statement seems quite clear, save that the complaints received concerning the church are not revealed. A quick look at the church's website did not reveal any further details.
The FIEC is not a denomination, but a free association, so churches are free to come and go as they wish, subject to the Fellowship's Basis of Faith and safeguarding practices.
 

rockytopva

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There were two general time frames

1. The first world – Written about by Enoch
2. The second world – All kinds of history!

I believe the ways of the first world will return here to the second world… As spoken in the Book of Enoch…

And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgement upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly: and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.

And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryings up to the gates of heaven.

Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. – The Book of Enoch

In examining planet earth these days it is very apparent that the world is ending like it did in Enoch’s time… With much violence and sexual sins.
 

Martin Marprelate

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And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgement upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly: and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
'Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on Him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war......... And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him of white horses..... He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS' (Rev. 19:11-16).
Same event?
 
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