What is a scriptural choice regarding Salvation

[Van]

Reply to Winman

I have to disagree, Revelation 7 tells us of 144,000 Jews who will believe in Christ, these people do not exist yet, or at least they did not exist when John wrote this book.

It keeps coming back to the same invention. Did John write about what God foresaw had happened in the future, or did John write about what God would bring about in the future? The Bible clearly teaches God causes His prophecies to come about. He fulfills them. This whole idea of Him looking into the future, like a crystal ball sideshow artist, is fiction, unbiblical and simply wrong.

Why make plans for the future, if what will happen in the future is known?

Foreknowledge does not refer to looking into the future, but in using information obtained or established in the past, i.e a predetermined plan, in the present. Thus Jesus died according to God's foreknown plan.

 

[JesusFan]

It keeps coming back to the same invention. Did John write about what God foresaw had happened in the future, or did John write about what God would bring about in the future? The Bible clearly teaches God causes His prophecies to come about. He fulfills them. This whole idea of Him looking into the future, like a crystal ball sideshow artist, is fiction, unbiblical and simply wrong.

Why make plans for the future, if what will happen in the future is known?

we can as we know that our God knows ALL things, as His will and Plan will be worked out concerning our lives...

Foreknowledge does not refer to looking into the future, but in using information obtained or established in the past, i.e a predetermined plan, in the present. Thus Jesus died according to God's foreknown plan.[/QUOTE

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God does not "look in the Future", as he exists outsude of Time, not bound by linear aspect of it, so ALL things known by Him "right now" he will not know anything furhter, as he isall knowing from the beginning...


Jesus died as paert of will and plan pf the father, as God directly caused it to happen! B y a combination of His Will, and the use of the plans of sinful men!