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What is love?
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I am going to consider them truth and try to work out the meaning along with other scripturs that seem of contradict ( but do not, I know ). And what are you going to do with those scriptures that say whosoever, ignore them, change the meaning of the word, world.Originally posted by Rippon:
Sorry Frenchy . My oversight . If they don't see those truths that you furnished by listing those verses -- it is just willfulness , stubborn willfulness .
DeeJay , what are you going to do about those passages of Scripture for starters ?
I have posted above that the scriptures the Frenchy posted are compeling. You missed that just like you missed the scriptures that were posted. It is obvious that you did not read any of the posts. You are in such a hurry to enter a thread and assert your position in a rude manner that you can not even take time to read the posts.
I am learning alot from the conversation I have been having with French. He is explaining his possition very well and I am finding myself in agreemnet with alot of what he says. His last post to me was very clear and makes alot of sense.
I tell you what I am not going to do. Listen to somebody who comes into the middle of a conversation and demands that everybody believe just because he said so and that anybody who does not agree with him has only man centered, stuboren, willfull ideas.
I have reasonable questions and we are having a reasonable conversation. Besides is calvenisem the only thing you ever post on. Is it the only demention of your faith. What percentage of your posts are non calvanisem related?
Since this is now another Rippon, you must be a 5 point calvinist or you are willfully disobeying thread, I will leave you to it Rippon. You must have been board with the other 25 calvinest posts you have going on?
Speaking of ignored scriptures, how about these ones. The OP is What is Love after all.
I submit that based on the below three verses. Either salvation is possable for every person or God does not love the un-chosen.
I submit that based on the below three verses. Either salvation is possable for every person or God does not love the un-chosen.
Originally posted by DeeJay:
Back to the original question
What is love?
Answer:
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:16
Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends.
John 15:13
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:8
And again I ask the question:
Is it ok for me to see a neighbor in need and not help take care of that need?
I will take it farther.
If I see three people drowning in a swiming pool, and I have the ability and means to save all three. Is it ok for me to pick one and save him only? Let the other two drown.
Is it ok for me to see a neighbor in need and not help take care of that need?
I will take it farther.
If I see three people drowning in a swiming pool, and I have the ability and means to save all three. Is it ok for me to pick one and save him only? Let the other two drown.
Ok, I count 36 out of your last 50 posts are directly related to Calvinisem. The rest are related to Bible translations with one on JFK and 2 on DL Moody.Originally posted by Rippon:
I was in-between classes when I responded to your thread DeeJay . Sorry that I did not spend the proper time in reading it .
You should pull up my profile sometime to see my posts .
Still not a very wide interest with all the subjects Christianity has to offer.
Deejay according to your question above I answered that on my first two post on the thread SIN, of course if see someone in need and we are "able" to meet that need i say that we should. that is something i pratice in my veryday life, to the extent of my husband "saying why did you do that" and my response is "because it is the RIGHT thing to do"
WHOSOEVER...
I believe the scriptures show that God gave his Son to the whole of humanity, an honest offer of salvation, and all are commanded to believe in him. BUT no one, not even one would come and believe! SO, God goes and chooses those he has favor on and passes by the rest. Leaving them in their unbelieving state. Just because I am given something does not mean I have to accept it. 3:16 does not refer directly to the actions on the cross but to Christ's coming in to the world. This is confirmed by verse 19. The light came in to the world but men loved the darkness more. That's all of us. 3:16 is a sincere offer to all" to come to Christ. Now this relieves God of any culpability for mans sin. We are now responsible because of our loving darkness instead. Now God knowing from before the beginning who he would redeem, accomplishes this by sending His Son to the cross to accomplish exactly that and only that, for the elect only. He who believes (by God's enabling) will be saved and those who do not are condemned already (left in their state of Sin.)