What is Sin?

[Heavenly Pilgrim]

HP: DHK is insistent that sin must remain, yea a believer must keep on sinning to be a believer.
Is this not precisely what you have presented as your beliefs DHK?

HP: Anyone that ceases from sin or even thinks they have ceased from sin is a liar according to him.

Again, is this not precisely your position DHK?


HP: His position is that for grace to abound sin must 'continue' to abound.

Tell me why this is not a logical conclusion based upon the above issues? You say that it is impossible for a Christian to cease from sin, and we know that Christians receive grace, so why cannot I conclude as I did?

 

[The Biblicist]

HP: A Calvinisitic philosophical position unsupported by Scripture or reason.

That is about all that you can do is spew empty rhetoric in the face of scriptures that you reject and misinterpret. I suppose you believe you are literaly sitting in heavenly places (Eph. 2:6) rather than positionally "in Christ"?

 

[The Biblicist]

Scriptures state that there in NOW therefore NO condemnation to those who are in Christ!

We cannot sin in the sense while found by God to be in Christ as regards to the Lord laying a charge against us due tothat act, but we can and do have fellowship broken, as we have taken ourselves away from the Lord in sense of fellowship....

It is one thing to "live in the Spirit" and another to "walk in the Spirit" (Gal. 5:25). It is one thing to be "created in Christ Jesus" (Eph. 2:10) but another thing to be "seated in Christ in heavenly places" (Eph. 2:6). It is one thing to be "chosen in him before the foundation of the world" (Eph. 1:4) and to "walk in him" (Col. 2:6).

It is one thing to be symboliclly in him through baptism (Rom. 6:4-5) and metaphorically be in him as the local congregational body of Christ and "members in particular" (1 Cor. 12:27).

There is massive ignorance concerning the various senses that "in Christ" is used in the New Testament.

 

[DHK]

HP: DHK is insistent that sin must remain, yea a believer must keep on sinning to be a believer.
Is this not precisely what you have presented as your beliefs DHK?

HP: Anyone that ceases from sin or even thinks they have ceased from sin is a liar according to him.

Again, is this not precisely your position DHK?


HP: His position is that for grace to abound sin must 'continue' to abound.

Tell me why this is not a logical conclusion based upon the above issues? You say that it is impossible for a Christian to cease from sin, and we know that Christians receive grace, so why cannot I conclude as I did?

Instead of pretending to know what I believe, quote me, by answering this post. Quit being ignorant!!

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