Originally posted by Tri Hard:
Pastor Bob, Can you show me any proof, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that God preserved His Word in the KJV? Until that time, I will continue to use my NKJV, NASB, and NIV: The infallible, preserved Word of God.
Tri Hard!
You beat me to the punch! That was exactly my reply! Thanks for the help.......
God never preserved His Word *into* any Bible version-- whether KJV, NIV, NASB, etc....
If we applied 'preservation' as KJV-onlyists have, then ask which KJV? If we applied 'preservation' as DocCas has defined(and basically myself, although I don't think it is a doctrine), then God has preserved His Word to us through the many extant Hebrew & Greek manuscripts in that we have not lost any of what He wrote in the originals. Either way, God does not 'preserve' His Word *into* any Bible version in any language; this is the doublespeak that KJVO's use to 'justify' their position in that God only preserved His Word *into* the KJV. Where does God say that from the Bible? Perhaps there is some extant manuscript that says, "I hath preserved My Word into the King James Version only", but no, unfortunately, there isn't. When KJVO's *twist* and *inject* their heretical beliefs into the 'biblical' doctrines/beliefs of preservation, then we get KJV-onlyism-- a heretical view of Bibliology.
Again, Pastor Bob 63, where does God say that He specifically "preserves" His Word, and more precisely, where does He say that He will "preserve" it
INTO the King James Version of the Bible
ONLY? Do you have some special revelation from God, or should we concede that the charismaniacs are right about God still speaking through revelations and tongues today? You cannot honestly answer this question without having your head examined. Your question is valid, in a sense, to ask me if I can 'prove' that God preserved His Word *into* any of the modern versions. I would have to answer "no" to all of them. Then you will say, "aha!"-- then God didn't 'preserve' or 'inspire' His Word into the modern versions! But wait, you will then say that God preserved His Word *only* into the KJV, right? Well, how do you propose that? The Bible, whether KJV or not, does not say that God preserves His Word *into* any version or from any language. See, I am honest enough to know what my Bible says about God's work in preservation of the Bible text. No, He did not preserve it into the KJV, NIV, NASB, or in Swahili! The 'doctrine' (or, teaching) of biblical preservation of the Bible text does not say that God preserves His Word into versions, languages, or manuscripts. He 'preserves' His Word by not allowing any of it to disappear from man-- period. I *know* that this is consistent with the Historic Christian faith passed down through the ages, and the heresies and false teachings of KJV-onlyism will go down to its inevitable destruction, even to the 'trash heap' where they falsely report that Sinaiticus came from! Surely, the Word of the Lord stands forever, but even these verses have been hijacked by KJV-onlyists to serve their perverted purposes. No, God did not preserve His Word into the Modern Versions, but I know that the NIV, NASB, NKJV, and even the venerable KJV has been carefully translated from their respective manuscripts in Hebrew and Greek, and are the very Word of God-- in English. We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we have all of what God wrote from the originals (despite the fact that the TR-- and the KJV-- had many 'added' verses to it, like 1 John 5:7-8).
Whew! This came from a.....
Independent, Fundamental, Sovereign Grace, Missionary, Pre-Mill/Pre-Trib, NIV/NASB preaching
, Calvinist, Predestined by the free will of God's foreknowledge and election, and a sinner saved *only* by the Grace of God through Jesus Christ...... BAPTIST!
Thanks for reading!
[ September 15, 2002, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: LRL71 ]
