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What is the Gift of Righteousness ?

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
There's not one scripture that you have quoted that says that Faith is not a work !

They all do; you just won't accept it.
For example: "For by grace are you saved, through faith and not of works.
That is as plain as can be.
Faith is not a work. How can you deny it?
 

savedbymercy

New Member
They all do; you just won't accept it.
For example: "For by grace are you saved, through faith and not of works.
That is as plain as can be.
Faith is not a work. How can you deny it?
You dreaming, not one scripture says that Faith is not a work of the Law, because it would be in contradiction Jesus words here Matt 23:23 !
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
You dreaming, not one scripture says that Faith is not a work of the Law, because it would be in contradiction Jesus words here Matt 23:23 !
Jesus doesn't come right out and say that it is a work of the law there.
It is an intangible--an attribute of God, a characteristic that all of God's people should have. That stands in opposition to the externals of the law which they were obeying. I

It is a "heart" matter.
Jesus taught the same thing about adultery:
Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 but I say unto you, that every one that looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

They no doubt obeyed the former--the external part of the law.
But it was the inner heart that mattered. "Just to look upon a woman with lust" was also adultery.
This is the same principle that Jesus was teaching in Matthew 23.
It is the heart attitude that counts.
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
You dreaming, not one scripture says that Faith is not a work of the Law, because it would be in contradiction Jesus words here Matt 23:23 !

What does John 3:16 state again?

Jesus demands a sinner to place faith in Him to get saved, so you are right, and he is wrong on salvation?
 

savedbymercy

New Member
Jesus doesn't come right out and say that it is a work of the law there.
It is an intangible--an attribute of God, a characteristic that all of God's people should have. That stands in opposition to the externals of the law which they were obeying. I

It is a "heart" matter.
Jesus taught the same thing about adultery:
Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 but I say unto you, that every one that looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

They no doubt obeyed the former--the external part of the law.
But it was the inner heart that mattered. "Just to look upon a woman with lust" was also adultery.
This is the same principle that Jesus was teaching in Matthew 23.
It is the heart attitude that counts.
He didn't come right out and say Faith is not a work of the Law neither ! But what He did come right out and say was this Matt 23:23 Faith is one of the more weightier matters of the Law that you ought to HAVE DONE !
 

Don

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
He didn't come right out and say Faith is not a work of the Law neither ! But what He did come right out and say was this Matt 23:23 Faith is one of the more weightier matters of the Law that you ought to HAVE DONE !
You have been shown so many times, in so many different ways, how you are misunderstang and mis-using that verse....
 

PreachTony

Active Member
He didn't come right out and say Faith is not a work of the Law neither ! But what He did come right out and say was this Matt 23:23 Faith is one of the more weightier matters of the Law that you ought to HAVE DONE !

Matthew 23:23 said:
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Let's break it down, SBM.
Jesus begins the verse by saying the Pharisees are hypocrites. Why? Because they pay tithes essentially in pride. He then says your most mis-applied part of the verse:
"and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith:"
Consider how that is written. If "judgment, mercy, and faith" were actually the weightier matters of the law, the scripture would appear thus:
"and have omitted the weightier matters of the law : judgment, mercy, and faith:"
But it doesn't. One way to consider this verse, SBM, is to look at it as though Jesus is saying "and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, [the weightier matters of] judgment, [the weightier matters of] mercy, and [the weightier matters of] faith:"
The phrase "weightier matters" applies to all four things Jesus mentions. It is not a means of including judgment, mercy, and faith as works of the law.
 
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